Hi first off all i gotta say this is my very first Post in this forum, so please dont blame me if sth is not as u wish.
So basicially i am doing a large(256²) RPG map with a naruto topic. so far so good.
WHAT I AM SEARCHING FOR IS SOMEONE WHO IS SKILLED IN MAP MAKING (u need to have a good knowledge about working with deathcounts and how to use spells from a warpgate and so on)

AND YOU SHOULD KNOW A LOT ABOUT THE NARUTO UNIVERSE (to understand why is this and that)
if u feel that you are the right one so far just reply ;]

FAQ:
why dont u do it on your own are you nub ?
- no i have a decent knowledge about map making, but this map is hard work and i dont have so much time at the moment cause im writing exams soon
what is the story of your naruto rpg ?
4 player map - you start in a small shinobi village with a few basic jutsus. from there on u fight a mass of enemys and upgrade your basic skills. if you move on u can find secret justsus by killing known bosses from the anime.
finally you can find elemental techniques to become elemntal jutsus (suiton, doton...).
this techniques are in a new upgrade system u have rarely seen before ;]
to sum it up it will be sth like an open rpg where u can create your custom shinobi by exploring the map
what do i have to do ?
you could help me with copying triggers and change them for each player( ya it sucks)
but u can also bring your own ideas.
ideal would be if u know a lot about making a lively AI in a rpg because this is something i dont know soo good ;]

feel free to ask and reply ;}

when you are interrested i will show u what i have done so far. its fun yes !

EDIT*: ok i fixed some things. thanks for your advice Tassadar/zeratul xD. my english sucks i know but i try my best
i will just add a few things:
-it would be great if you know naruto maps and understand all the triggers of them.
an example for a boss is z.B the akatsuki member "Deidara" who is a drone in almost every naruto map and his explosive clay techniques are almost every time represtented as mines in starcraft. So if you manage to kill deidara on my map you will be able to use explosive clay "mines" as your own techniques.
there will be maybe a total of 8 bosses on my map.
-the elemental techniques are used with a Zerg Hive. In the beginning you have no elemental techniques at all but if you found a Elemental Ninjutsu shrine and kill it you gain your first elemental technique tree. if you kill 1 doton Ninjutsu shrine for example, you will be able to use the first jutsu of your hive(drone) . so if u kill another doton shrine u will be able to use your second doton jutsu up to 3. if your first elemental technique is doton and you kill another shrine which is not doton for example a suiton shrine you will gain a second elemental technique tree with suiton jutsus and so on ;] finally there are 5 different elemental trees and you can have three diff elemental powers max. lets give you a example
player one killed 2 raiton shrine then a katon shrine the 3 doton shrine then a katon shrine so his elemental techniques are:
first tree = RAITON = x x -
second tree = KATON = x x -
third tree = DOTON = x x x
so when he builds an ultralisk it will trigger doton jutsu 2 and spawn at the players location
but when he builds a scourge it will give out an error and he will get his chakra(gas) back because second tree jutsu 3 isnt available at this moment

ok if you wanna now any more specific details just ask me ;]

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Jan 22 2009, 4:48 pm by karatekid.

More details please? Most people like to know what they are agreeing to do before they agree to do it.

Also, you might have better luck if you used proper typing. To quote someone on this site: "If you say "plz" because it's shorter than "please", then I'll say "no" because it's shorter than "yes".

If I were you, I'd put some information about the plot, spells, enemies, and what exactly your "partner" would have to do.

And no, this is not a flame post or whatever you want to call it, it's advice.

Welcome to SEN. Before you get in too deep, it's a requirement to type legibly, and while I can read your posts, you tend to have some unnecessary shorthand. Please attempt to type with impeccable grammar. It will come across as much more professional, and make you easier to understand. If English is not your primary language, which I assume it isn't, please still try. There is already a language barrier, and the better your grammar/spelling, the better chance we have of understanding you.

My tidbits:
Don't rush a map. If you're in exams, wait until you are out of them. It's highly unlikely that you will get any bites on this.

I offer a solution. If you have a problem with the map, say you need terrain, post the problem in the terrain forum. If you want to do something, but you don't know how to trigger it, post it in this forum and we will help you.

As for the map, check out "5 Samurai" in the map database. It has 4 spells per person, and might inspire some justu moves/control system.

ya i hate myself for beeing that worse in english but i cant change it just now sry.
i guess i just need a guy who love editing maps and naruto just like me

maybe you think that i am one of that guys who just woke up and had an incerdible idea of doing a map but has
no clue about triggers at all but thats not rly the case.
this map has already several hundrets of triggers but somehow i feel i cant do it alone. If i will continue doing it alone
i will maybe stop it because i think the map needs another input. anyone who got iccup i can show him the map right now and unprotected

edit°: no offence but Samurai 5 is a beginner map or at least not that what im planning of !

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Jan 22 2009, 5:14 pm by karatekid.

Hello, karatekid, you're welcome!

We dont think about you as a man who "has no clue about triggers at all", but please dont think the same way about us. Most of us out there are quite skilled map makers. We're all humans, have our own things to do in real life, our problems. I believe that most of skilled mappers have not got much time to make maps either... I believe each of us have our own map ideas we want to implement in life and projects we're working at... Your only hope is to find a man which is interested in Naruto universe as much as you.

You're looking for a skilled map maker to "help ... with copying triggers and change them for each player". Don't you think it's quite a black work for a skilled mapper? Just probably you're looking in wrong direction. The method you're using to convince people is looking strange... at least for me.

My advice is to find someone who is interested in your topic first. If he is skilled enough or not is secondary... The best case for you is to find a man with skills equal to yours, because obviously noone wants to work with a less skilled companion.

You know, it does not matter if the map protected or not nowadays. What matters is how many people admit you as a creator of the map. You can post the map here on SEN not being afraid it will be stolen, because we all will admit you being a creator (if it is your map of course). If you dont want the map being stolen in any case just don't give it to anyone, but then noone will know about it. What I want to say is that you can post your map here, this will help people to understand your real mapping skills better than any words and thus will help you to find a suitable mapper.

The last. If you really need much copying... I just wonder if you triggering in text? This will be the most efficient way for the task. Also you might be interested in a tool which helps you to make copies of triggers. If you do, consider looking MacroTriggers tool.

Salutations, hello and greetings KarateKid.

Best of luck with your map. I'd do as Rockz suggested and post help questions in the various fourms.


Stolen Much?

thanks for the replys so far.

@wormer: haha hey im not THAT skilled in mapmaking and you are for sure better than me. this macrotrigger tool looks nice and i will try to use it in the next days. And if the map has improved just a bit more i will post it here and you can have a look on it. maybe i can do this next week. But for now its just to delta version or something xD.

Why is that? I've not done much maps... And everything I've done is not so well. Yes, I know triggers fine, but is that what is making a mapmaker skilled?

The MacroTriggers (MT) was primarily created to use as the one and only tool in the triggers development process. You get the most profit from using MT if you start developing triggers from the very beginning. But you can also use MT just as another replication tool.

Feel free to ask any questions about it in the proper thread.

hello i just edited something on my map and now it crushes SC every second (!!!) time and i have no clue why -.-
maybe it has something to do with player 5.
can someone pls help me.
(the map is attached)

Attachments:

karatekid, you do realize that you can use notepad to copy triggers between players in a matter of minutes, right?

hmm yay but it doesn't fix my map -.-

Welcome to the forums. I did the same thing you did the first time I came here, asked to buddy up with someone. I never did. And I never made the map

Details? Did you add a crashing sprite or an unused unit? Both of those can do it. (In other words, what did you change?)

Check the wiki before posting:
Crashlist

hmm.. i did not use sprites yet.
what do you mean with unused units?

and can i do it like this:
Force1: Player 1-4
Force2: Player 7
Force3: Player 6 & 8
Force4: Player 5 ???
or is this illegal ?

I just played it. It works fine.

Of course you can. Why should it be illegal?

@rockz he said it crashes like every 2nd time. Maybe try more often?

Welcome to SEN, karatekid

First off... Hi Narutard! lolol

Second.. An RPG requires deligence a lots of ideas and brainstorms. A good RPG takes a long time to finish. So you'll need to go at it slowly, or, as you're smartly doing right now, get sm1 to help you.

Thirdly.. it seems, from your last post, you do not fully understand some cheap ways of getting around triggering. Especially for RPGs, you're gonna need to shave off your triggers/locations/strings into a minimum... I suggest you look at other's map =O.. For example, I used a lot of ways to shave down triggers (for my sake) by giving everyone the same "spell counter" and Paralysis counter.. And I used Defilers as "markers" so i don't have to do 12 triggers per Area of Effect spells, just 3 (whether defiler is in the Area, not in the area, or you're not supposed to be affected even if ur defiler IS in the area)..

Lastly.. Play: Naruto, Mark of the Shinobi... and The 5 samurai.. then Temple Siege (find a version that isn't protected =_=', or ask me for one) First one will help you with naruto spell ideas.. 2nd will help you with RPG style ideas.. Third one is just for kicks... ANND I guess balance and some more cool ideas that Starcraft's capable off

Welcome to SEN karatekid.
I know I'm just a tad late on the greetings but still, I'll be polite.

With an RPG make sure you take advice pretty seriously and well when it comes to triggers or bugs and take ideas into consideration. We're pretty nice here at SEN and have a lot of very proffessional and great mappers that know what they're talking about. All I'm going to say. Again, welcome to the family.

thank you for all your requests but my primary goal is now to get rid of the erroe -.- so if anyone knows what to do please let me know

for all who played the map yet, do you like it so far ?