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2008 Presidential elections
Nov 19 2007, 8:12 am
By: MillenniumArmy
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Dec 1 2007, 9:45 pm MillenniumArmy Post #41



I'm not sure about the horrible primary system thing though, because as you and I both know, there are other reasons such as a lack of education and lack of caring (which I think is primarily due to the fact that voting is optional). If they are so politically ignorant and apathetic, then how would they be able to tell that our primary system is horrible?

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Dec 1 2007, 10:01 pm dumbducky Post #42



Being the uber conservative/constitutionalist/liberterian that I am, I'd vote Thompson. I like Ron Paul's policies, except his foreign policy.

On the topic of health care, the insane costs are because there is insurance. Nobody, absolutely nobody, tries to save moeny because their insurance pays for it. Since a $100 drug will sell as much as a $5 generic, corporations have no incentive to try and lower costs. Because this all comes out of the insurance companies pocket, they have to charge the healthy people more. Add in the obesity problems of America, and you're only going to increase the rate at which insurance costs increase. To prove this point, look at surgeries that aren't covered by insurance, like laser eye surgery and cosmetic surgeries. They've actually gone down in price. That is, in a nutshell, the healthcare problem of America.



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Dec 2 2007, 3:23 am yenku Post #43



Quote from MillenniumArmy
I'm not sure about the horrible primary system thing though, because as you and I both know, there are other reasons such as a lack of education and lack of caring (which I think is primarily due to the fact that voting is optional). If they are so politically ignorant and apathetic, then how would they be able to tell that our primary system is horrible?

:P
Well that's true, but it certainly makes the system disillusioning for more aware voters as well. The media and the primaries, I could argue, cause much trouble for the U.S. in the realm of elections (And more, when you think about it).

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On the topic of health care, the insane costs are because there is insurance. Nobody, absolutely nobody, tries to save moeny because their insurance pays for it. Since a $100 drug will sell as much as a $5 generic, corporations have no incentive to try and lower costs. Because this all comes out of the insurance companies pocket, they have to charge the healthy people more. Add in the obesity problems of America, and you're only going to increase the rate at which insurance costs increase. To prove this point, look at surgeries that aren't covered by insurance, like laser eye surgery and cosmetic surgeries. They've actually gone down in price. That is, in a nutshell, the healthcare problem of America.
Trust me, I won't pretend to know I have great intelligence on this issue. Where did you learn about this? Either way it sounds to me that socialized health care will cure the illness. Pardon my pun ;P



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