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[2017-3-23. : 11:53 pm]  jjf28 -- @ zsnakezzzsnakezz shouted: perhaps trump is the meme we need to achieve bipartisanship [2017-3-23. : 11:53 pm]  Lanthanide -- even when we didn't have MMP and used electorates-only with FPP, (really before my time), I still don't think it meant a lot[2017-3-23. : 11:53 pm] zsnakezz -- you are saying it's harder to impeach people who abused the system then those who had a natural following?[2017-3-23. : 11:53 pm] Lanthanide -- it's difficult to vote electorate MPs out of office because we use MMP, so most well-known MPs who happen to lose their electorate will get into parliament via the Party LIst process anyway[2017-3-23. : 11:51 pm] Lanthanide -- we have electorate MPs, who are voted in by a particular geographic area, but in practice it doesn't mean a lot (as much as they like to pretend that it does)[2017-3-23. : 11:51 pm] Lanthanide -- I'm not entirely sure what the point of the 'whip' office is; presumably they talk to all of the MPs and get their views back, and report it to the party leadership? So if the leader says "we will vote A", then even if all MPs don't agree with it, they will get the feedback from the MPs via the whip[2017-3-23. : 11:50 pm] jjf28 -- the new healthcare bill is unpopular and dumb enough to get some bipartisan opposition[2017-3-23. : 11:50 pm] Lanthanide -- it's called "party whipping" and each party has someone called a 'whip'[2017-3-23. : 11:49 pm] Lanthanide -- they're almost always social issues, like legalisation of gay marriage and prostitution law reform[2017-3-23. : 11:49 pm] Lanthanide -- there are certain votes on policies that are called "conscience votes", in which MPs can vote 'their own conscience' aka can vote however they want, generally guided by their constituency[2017-3-23. : 11:48 pm] Lanthanide -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: is this normal? That everyone votes by party policy? it's normal in NZ, unfortunately[2017-3-23. : 11:44 pm] zsnakezz -- to that, i award him the permission to always be skeptical of everyone else[2017-3-23. : 11:41 pm] zsnakezz -- "hello my name is demon, everything you do and will ever do i hate because i hate myself for not being as popular as ive always wanted"[2017-3-23. : 11:40 pm] zsnakezz -- but the things that create meme city can also be used to be productive[2017-3-23. : 11:38 pm] zsnakezz -- to think corbo would make anybody made is puzzling to me, he wants things not to work[2017-3-23. : 11:34 pm] zsnakezz -- everybody needs somebody, if corbo decided to help instead of instigate, we would fuck shit up[2017-3-23. : 11:33 pm]  Moose -- zsnakezzzsnakezz shouted: or ya know, you could just blow it out yer ass mad AF[2017-3-23. : 11:32 pm] zsnakezz -- would like to do a stress test so let me know if you are interested however[2017-3-23. : 11:29 pm] zsnakezz -- just to know there is some insurance to the tests ive already done[2017-3-23. : 11:28 pm] zsnakezz -- but i cant guarantee that its not already working as intended, because it would take about 10 tests in total to make sure.[2017-3-23. : 11:27 pm] zsnakezz -- i fixed all the glitches that halt gameplay. if you corbo would like to stress test the randomization system with me, we could figure out a fix if its not already fixed[2017-3-23. : 11:26 pm] Corbo -- ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOUR MAP HAS GLITCHES AND YOU ARE LEAVING IT LIKE THAT IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING?![2017-3-23. : 11:22 pm] zsnakezz -- you can read everything i just said backwards, and it would still say the same thing good day to you all[2017-3-23. : 11:19 pm] zsnakezz -- if you want to play it, you can delete the 1000 versions that came before it[2017-3-23. : 11:16 pm] Corbo -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: Corbo isn't it it so that only the real president can propose laws and all the opposition can do is veto? our legislators can propose laws, in fact, in my country pretty much anyone can propose laws and our legislators (congress) review them / write / rephrase them as actual real laws and then they approve them[2017-3-23. : 11:13 pm] NudeRaider -- CorboCorbo shouted: And the leader of the opposing party is 1. Not even a part of our congress and 2. Was not voted by any salvadorean. So technically he is our real president since he controls the majority xD isn't it it so that only the real president can propose laws and all the opposition can do is veto?[2017-3-23. : 11:11 pm] NudeRaider -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: NudeRaider Communicated among the people doing the governing. Maybe not so much the people getting fucked over LMAO well yeah, back to square one then.  Just not with senators, but with parties. Yay.[2017-3-23. : 11:10 pm] Moose -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: Mini Moose 2707 well then it's probably not as bad as I thought, as long as such party policy is clearly communicated. Communicated among the people doing the governing. Maybe not so much the people getting fucked over LMAO[2017-3-23. : 11:10 pm] NudeRaider -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: And if you don't like it, you still have the freedom to not use the internet C|X^DDDDD interesting idea. Selling elimination of a viable choice as freedom to not choose it. I see Trump logic is already taking root in the populace.  [2017-3-23. : 11:07 pm] Corbo -- And the leader of the opposing party is 1. Not even a part of our congress and 2. Was not voted by any salvadorean. So technically he is our real president since he controls the majority xD[2017-3-23. : 11:07 pm] NudeRaider -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: I haven't looked too deep into statistics for that, but I suspect it happens most of the time. well then it's probably not as bad as I thought, as long as such party policy is clearly communicated.[2017-3-23. : 11:04 pm] Corbo -- So it is like is we have two presidents because the opposing party actually has majority[2017-3-23. : 11:03 pm] Corbo -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: is this normal? That everyone votes by party policy? It's normal in my country. If you're aligned to a party you're expected to vote like you are instructed. Like, last year we had a huge issue with our national budget and the opposing party instructed all of their members to vote against it. If you don't follow the instructions they just kick you out[2017-3-23. : 10:03 pm] Moose -- And if you don't like it, you still have the freedom to not use the internet C|X^DDDDD[2017-3-23. : 9:51 pm] Moose -- I haven't looked too deep into statistics for that, but I suspect it happens most of the time.[2017-3-23. : 9:50 pm] Moose -- All yes votes were Republican senators. All no votes were Democrat senators. |
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