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[2021-10-03. : 11:12 pm]  Ultraviolet -- Andrea RosaAndrea Rosa shouted: The life of a map maker -- No hugs & kisses, only bugs & fixes. No dates, only updates. No rest, only test. Idealized. Might actually get more done if this were true  [2021-10-03. : 11:05 pm] Ultraviolet -- lil-Infernolil-Inferno shouted: the real life of a map maker in 2021 -- speaking as someone who still maps in 2021.. this is not untrue :bigsigh:[2021-10-03. : 7:39 pm]  lil-Inferno -- the real life of a map maker - start map, stop working on map after a few days, start new map[2021-10-03. : 2:59 pm] Andrea Rosa -- The life of a map maker -- No hugs & kisses, only bugs & fixes. No dates, only updates. No rest, only test.[2021-10-02. : 5:00 pm] MTiger156 -- ... or just do what Mass Effect 3 did. Make all possible combination of choices result in the same ending no matter what  [2021-10-02. : 4:52 pm] Oh_Man -- Like a NPC having a different line of dialogue doesn't justify the time expense of playing through an entire game/map again for most people.[2021-10-02. : 4:52 pm] Oh_Man -- Especially when I reckon most people just play something once then move on. They aren't bothered to explore the other outcomes, especially if they're speculated to be superficial differences anyway.[2021-10-02. : 4:50 pm] Oh_Man -- VraelVrael shouted: I might have to scrap the multi-option storyline stuff, that was supposed to be a big deal but now that I'm older I think thats fairly unnecessary Unless the choices have really superficial outcomes, that is a massive scope increase.[2021-10-02. : 3:21 pm] NudeRaider -- Voyager7456Voyager7456 shouted: whatever tho, keep tilting at windmills bud I've tilted the windmills when we had this discussion 4 years ago, but since then I've realized I'm never gonna change anyone's mind.[2021-10-02. : 3:19 pm] NudeRaider -- Voyager7456Voyager7456 shouted: NudeRaider NudeRaider Your motivations are pretty clear bud, you're under the delusion that you're a brave free speech warrior and people are just afraid or "shook by your boldness" when we're really just put off and (in my case) mostly bewildered that you still act like this as a grown-ass adult I am an advocate for free speech. Not sure if I can be counted as a warrior, because I don't need to fight for something that I already have. Also I don't understand how that is supposed to be childish. I already conceded that bold may have had the wrong undertone. Why bring it up again? Put in put off, upset, surprised, or whatever you felt... These semantics don't matter. The statement was that nobody felt attacked by me.[2021-10-02. : 12:15 pm] Voyager7456 -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: Voyager7456 in the same vain: You really think I still put value on you liking me? Just quit trying to guess my motivations. You're clearly not good at it. NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: Voyager7456 Voyager7456 I realize it's special for you, but if you honestly wanted to talk about my motivations you'd have do it from my perspective. From my perspective there's nothing special about being allowed to use controversial words. As we've recently learned a court ruled that it's fine to do: NudeRaider . Yet, somehow, you still think this is about (the likes of) you? That I can't stand following your command? Sorry but I can't take this serious at all. You CAN'T actually think that. I was pretty straightforward with my explanations. If you really wanna believe I'm lying, at least make up a decent story. Your motivations are pretty clear bud, you're under the delusion that you're a brave free speech warrior and people are just afraid or "shook by your boldness" when we're really just put off and (in my case) mostly bewildered that you still act like this as a grown-ass adult[2021-10-02. : 12:13 pm] Voyager7456 -- UltravioletUltraviolet shouted: Vrael Black celebrities still count as black people though, and I wasn't citing them as experts of any sort, just public figures who prove that there isn't a consensus among black people about the use of that word. Consensus doesn't require unanimity. I think there is a general consensus, which is why we have a near-universal societal taboo. And then there are contextual factors that matter and impact the strength of that consensus - it's commonly agreed that white people shouldn't be throwing it around in general conversation but Oprah's position is much less common.[2021-10-02. : 7:53 am] NudeRaider -- VraelVrael shouted: Nude is tilted not really. I've stopped getting emotional over Internet debates a long time ago. Doesn't mean I won't point hair raising statements when I recognize them. [2021-10-02. : 7:50 am] NudeRaider -- lil-Infernolil-Inferno shouted: NudeRaider legal = morally right 🤣 fine, ignore that part.[2021-10-02. : 4:21 am] Oh_Man -- VraelVrael shouted: it was definitely the #1 contributor of bugs just do a "scope analysis" or w/e u want to call it, redefine the game's scope to be something u can quickly bang out[2021-10-02. : 4:17 am] Oh_Man -- VraelVrael shouted: I wonder if I could salvage the tenebrous and really finish it u want to be on ur deaths bed at age 100 and ur last thought be, "damn I never finished tenebrous"? no? didnt think so m8[2021-10-02. : 1:23 am] lil-Inferno -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: Voyager7456 Voyager7456 I realize it's special for you, but if you honestly wanted to talk about my motivations you'd have do it from my perspective. From my perspective there's nothing special about being allowed to use controversial words. As we've recently learned a court ruled that it's fine to do: NudeRaider . Yet, somehow, you still think this is about (the likes of) you? That I can't stand following your command? Sorry but I can't take this serious at all. You CAN'T actually think that. I was pretty straightforward with my explanations. If you really wanna believe I'm lying, at least make up a decent story. legal = morally right 🤣[2021-10-02. : 12:00 am] NudeRaider -- Voyager7456Voyager7456 shouted: people deciding "wow I don't want to be around this prick" isn't violating your freedom of speech, you don't have a right to be liked in the same vain: You really think I still put value on you liking me? Just quit trying to guess my motivations. You're clearly not good at it.[2021-10-01. : 11:59 pm] NudeRaider -- Voyager7456Voyager7456 shouted: Nude isn't doing any of those things - he just wants to show what a brave and special boy he is Voyager7456Voyager7456 shouted: NudeRaider well at least you've dropped the pretense - yes it's obvious all you care about is that people told you not to say a thing and that chafes I realize it's special for you, but if you honestly wanted to talk about my motivations you'd have do it from my perspective. From my perspective there's nothing special about being allowed to use controversial words. As we've recently learned a court ruled that it's fine to do: NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: jjf28 "he defended himself in court — and won." . Yet, somehow, you still think this is about (the likes of) you? That I can't stand following your command? Sorry but I can't take this serious at all. You CAN'T actually think that. I was pretty straightforward with my explanations. If you really wanna believe I'm lying, at least make up a decent story.[2021-10-01. : 10:52 pm] Ultraviolet -- VraelVrael shouted: celebrities are pretty dumb though, dunno if anything they say ever matters Black celebrities still count as black people though, and I wasn't citing them as experts of any sort, just public figures who prove that there isn't a consensus among black people about the use of that word.[2021-10-01. : 9:51 pm] Vrael -- celebrities are pretty dumb though, dunno if anything they say ever matters[2021-10-01. : 9:31 pm] Ultraviolet -- Here's an article talking about it. "As Winfrey visited 50 Cent at his grandmother's home, the rapper explained that he took issue with Winfrey's lack of hip-hop artists on her show and her discouragement of the use of the N-word."[2021-10-01. : 9:30 pm] Ultraviolet -- Voyager7456Voyager7456 shouted: Ultraviolet Vrael Vrael except you're not listening to those perspectives, because by and large they've settled on "there is no respectful situation to use it" hence the societal taboo VraelVrael shouted: and if you actually have this conversation in person you'll find the people most disparaged by it, aka black people, are just as diverse and varied in their opinion as any other group, and have not "settled" on a single answer I won't claim to have a ton of experience speaking with black folks on the matter, but my limited experience goes in line with what Vrael said, there isn't one agreed upon answer even in their community to this debate. I've even seen it among black celebrities, wasn't it Oprah who was complaining about people like 50 Cent using 'nigga' in their music?[2021-10-01. : 9:18 pm] Ultraviolet -- VraelVrael shouted: I mean I suck too, but that's beside the point oh yeah?  [2021-10-01. : 9:15 pm]  O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- MTiger156MTiger156 shouted: O..........M..........G. Why is this debate still going?! ya [2021-10-01. : 8:10 pm] Vrael -- LuigiLuigi shouted: Andrea Rosa So many questions but so few answers in this unfair life. Why was I born in America but I don't have American citizenship? if by "America" you mean "United States" then you absolutely should have U.S. citizenship[2021-10-01. : 7:44 pm] Luigi -- Andrea RosaAndrea Rosa shouted: Why is it called "Attention Deficit" when I've got a surplus of the stupidest thoughts of all time? So many questions but so few answers in this unfair life. Why was I born in America but I don't have American citizenship?[2021-10-01. : 5:57 pm] Vrael -- I might have to scrap the multi-option storyline stuff, that was supposed to be a big deal but now that I'm older I think thats fairly unnecessary[2021-10-01. : 5:56 pm] Vrael -- I suck hours and hours into play testing to try and fuck up the systems[2021-10-01. : 5:56 pm] Vrael -- Oh_ManOh_Man shouted: def could have coded one or two tenebrous triggers in that time you know, thinking back about where I got stuck, it was really checking all the edge cases and play testing time[2021-10-01. : 5:53 pm] Vrael -- alright well I ought to quit arguing with you then if you're really not saying anything that counter to what I have to say[2021-10-01. : 4:05 pm] Voyager7456 -- VraelVrael shouted: in other, more positive linguistic related news: https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/01/us/alex-jones-loses-sandy-hook-cases/index.html this is absolutely hilarious although it's made my Friday morning a little dull since it delayed the latest episode of Knowledge Fight[2021-10-01. : 4:03 pm] Voyager7456 -- or maybe he's just performing a one-man historical play and I've misunderstood appropriate usage NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: Apos if a nigger eats a white person, doesn't he become white? [2021-10-01. : 4:02 pm] Voyager7456 -- Every time the topic comes up he jumps at the chance to be edgy and then whine about how hard done by he is when people tell him off[2021-10-01. : 4:02 pm] Voyager7456 -- Nude isn't doing any of those things - he just wants to show what a brave and special boy he is[2021-10-01. : 3:58 pm] Voyager7456 -- VraelVrael shouted: regarding the insufferable pedantry - people need to be able to talk about things, including bad things and bad words and their problems, and if we whitewash the word out of history we won't learn anything from it no one is arguing for whitewashing history, and people generally don't object to any of the necessary usages you brought up[2021-10-01. : 3:55 pm] Andrea Rosa -- Why is it called "Attention Deficit" when I've got a surplus of the stupidest thoughts of all time?[2021-10-01. : 3:54 pm] Voyager7456 -- VraelVrael shouted: Voyager7456 not listening to your interpretation** of those perspectives I *have* been a part of this conversation (or attended presentations where it was discussed) in person a number of times, and it's those experiences that shape my perspective that the question is pretty settled[2021-10-01. : 2:43 pm] Vrael -- in other, more positive linguistic related news: https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/01/us/alex-jones-loses-sandy-hook-cases/index.html[2021-10-01. : 2:23 pm] Vrael -- though naturally I cannot speak for them entirely either, just represent what I've learned[2021-10-01. : 2:18 pm] Vrael -- and if you actually have this conversation in person you'll find the people most disparaged by it, aka black people, are just as diverse and varied in their opinion as any other group, and have not "settled" on a single answer[2021-10-01. : 2:14 pm] Vrael -- and as for general conversation, I quite disagree - I think we all just had a general conversation without anyone calling anyone else the word[2021-10-01. : 2:11 pm] Vrael -- VraelVrael shouted: hearing it in movies is a necessary usage in proper historical context, let me qualify that[2021-10-01. : 2:10 pm] Vrael -- regarding the insufferable pedantry - people need to be able to talk about things, including bad things and bad words and their problems, and if we whitewash the word out of history we won't learn anything from it[2021-10-01. : 2:06 pm] Vrael -- you seem to have decided you "unilaterally stumbled upon the correct solution to dealing with racism"[2021-10-01. : 2:05 pm] Vrael -- Voyager7456Voyager7456 shouted: Voyager7456 I better amend this to "no respectful situation to use it in general conversation" before some insufferable pedant chimes in with "hurr what if you're doing a live reading of The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn" or some shit this is the whole point, its not merely insufferable pedantry[2021-10-01. : 2:05 pm] Vrael -- Voyager7456Voyager7456 shouted: Ultraviolet Vrael Vrael except you're not listening to those perspectives, because by and large they've settled on "there is no respectful situation to use it" hence the societal taboo not listening to your interpretation** of those perspectives |
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