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[2017-6-11. : 7:35 pm]  Voyager7456 -- As for the rest of your point, Mesk had been the dictionary definition of an internet troll for as long as I've known him. Of course I'd dismiss the idea of having a serious conversation, lmao[2017-6-11. : 7:35 pm] Broflamingo -- IskatuMeskIskatuMesk shouted: The very concept of racism is also subjective. Most people don't acknowledge it, so it simply doesn't exist for them. The only people who try to perpetuate the concept that words have to hurt people are people who are so desperate for attention they have to be victimized. E.g. SJW's, liberals, Hitler's mailman. Funny statement. You need to get out more.[2017-6-11. : 7:32 pm] Broflamingo -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Also NudeRaider mad NudeRaider mad AF BROWNAGE[2017-6-11. : 7:30 pm] Voyager7456 -- TiKelsTiKels shouted: Further, it is a bandaid on the bulletwound of race related discrimination vocabulary, that page Yeah no kidding. I linked to it solely as a starting point. I apologize for assuming you saying the language was "literally undigestable" meant you were unfamiliar with the idea.[2017-6-11. : 7:27 pm]  TiKels -- Further, it is a bandaid on the bulletwound of race related discrimination vocabulary, that page[2017-6-11. : 7:27 pm] IskatuMesk -- Real world experience >>>> internet definitions on subjective material tbh[2017-6-11. : 7:26 pm] TiKels -- That source did not clarify what the term meant beyond my existing knowledge of the term[2017-6-11. : 7:25 pm] Voyager7456 -- You seemed confused about what the term meant so I linked to a definiton, that's all.[2017-6-11. : 7:25 pm] TiKels -- Oh ok good, as long as you know that your behavior binds you to exclusively acting pompous[2017-6-11. : 7:24 pm] Voyager7456 -- Lol I'm not trying to reach Mesk at all. I know how pointless that is.[2017-6-11. : 7:24 pm] IskatuMesk -- Oh. Well, this is the internet. Even if I were wrong, he could never convince me otherwise. It would be pointless to even bother trying. Arguing over the internet is like trying to find civilization in Canada. Good luck![2017-6-11. : 7:24 pm] TiKels -- It is in quotations because it is supposed to be representative of the hypothetical possibility that Voy haS the "correct" ideas, while you have the "incorrect" ideas[2017-6-11. : 7:22 pm] IskatuMesk -- TiKelsTiKels shouted: You can't be good by helping people and understanding hardships AND talk down to people who have "backwards", "incorrect", or otherwise "provincial" ideas I dunno what exactly this statement means, but if it's to imply I have "incorrect ideas" because I haven't experienced the subject matter, then that would be an extremely fatal assumption.[2017-6-11. : 7:22 pm] TiKels -- If you wanna know anything about persuasive arguments, you start by putting yourself on level with the person you're talking to.[2017-6-11. : 7:21 pm] TiKels -- You can't be good by helping people and understanding hardships AND talk down to people who have "backwards", "incorrect", or otherwise "provincial" ideas[2017-6-11. : 7:21 pm] IskatuMesk -- The thing is, no one can act better than me, because I know I am the best. Not just anyone can have an ass chiseled to perfection like this one. The way the light shines off the rim.... mmm! Beauty can't be faked, daddy.[2017-6-11. : 7:20 pm] TiKels -- If you want to disagree and help the world: disagree and help the world. If you want to act better than mesk and make yourself feel good about it, have fun[2017-6-11. : 7:19 pm] TiKels -- You are acting like a stuck up asshole "oh look how much I know. You don't know the real truth. I'm better than you because I know". This is a toxic attitude. The source you linked is not very good. It manages to be just too incomplete to actually carve out a meaning, while still maintaining a very complex and nuanced use of language that restricts it to those with strong reading[2017-6-11. : 7:15 pm] lil-Inferno -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: inb4 "not a mod" cop out for why he didn't say anything LMAO nah, more like I don't need to repeat what was already said tbh fam imo[2017-6-11. : 7:14 pm] TiKels -- Voy you're doing a great job. Keep educating him he seems to like it[2017-6-11. : 7:13 pm] Voyager7456 -- IskatuMeskIskatuMesk shouted: The very concept of racism is also subjective. Most people don't acknowledge it, so it simply doesn't exist for them. The only people who try to perpetuate the concept that words have to hurt people are people who are so desperate for attention they have to be victimized. E.g. SJW's, liberals, Hitler's mailman. *eye-rolling intensifies*[2017-6-11. : 7:11 pm] IskatuMesk -- Which is why it's very cathartic to point and laugh every chance you get.[2017-6-11. : 7:11 pm] TiKels -- IskatuMeskIskatuMesk shouted: The very concept of racism is also subjective. Most people don't acknowledge it, so it simply doesn't exist for them. The only people who try to perpetuate the concept that words have to hurt people are people who are so desperate for attention they have to be victimized. E.g. SJW's, liberals, Hitler's mailman. I think the victimization thing is an unfortunate side effect. I dislike strongly victimization stuff[2017-6-11. : 7:09 pm] IskatuMesk -- The very concept of racism is also subjective. Most people don't acknowledge it, so it simply doesn't exist for them. The only people who try to perpetuate the concept that words have to hurt people are people who are so desperate for attention they have to be victimized. E.g. SJW's, liberals, Hitler's mailman.[2017-6-11. : 7:09 pm] TiKels -- When I say it's a "fuzzy description" that means that it's subjective, but within the scope of fuzzy logic[2017-6-11. : 7:08 pm] TiKels -- IskatuMeskIskatuMesk shouted: TiKels All "social" bs is completely subjective, including both concepts you laid out. that's exactly what I said[2017-6-11. : 7:08 pm] IskatuMesk -- TiKelsTiKels shouted: I think the idea of moral absolutism is pretty incomplete. It's easy to identify things that stand on one side or the other "Killing is bad" (closer to moral absolute) or "transgender is a gender" (moral relative, depends strongly on social connotation of gender) All "social" bs is completely subjective, including both concepts you laid out.[2017-6-11. : 7:07 pm] TiKels -- Voyager7456Voyager7456 shouted: TiKels TiKels here ya go fam https://itstopswithme.humanrights.gov.au/what-can-you-do/speak/casual-racism Let's pretend I'm not educated enough to understand the nuance of the different types of racism[2017-6-11. : 7:05 pm] TiKels -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: NudeRaider also that sentence doesn't seem grammatically correct. Can someone corerct it please? "too good of an opportunity"[2017-6-11. : 7:05 pm] Voyager7456 -- TiKelsTiKels shouted: He like ... literally laid out the problem with terms like "casual racism" TiKelsTiKels shouted: The language is just not digestable here ya go fam https://itstopswithme.humanrights.gov.au/what-can-you-do/speak/casual-racism[2017-6-11. : 7:04 pm] TiKels -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Also NudeRaider mad NudeRaider mad AF [2017-6-11. : 6:57 pm] TiKels -- He like ... literally laid out the problem with terms like "casual racism"[2017-6-11. : 6:56 pm] TiKels -- IskatuMeskIskatuMesk shouted: there is no such thing as "casual racism". There is only "people get mad about words and cry" and that's about it. TiKelsTiKels shouted: Why don't we just go ahead and call all social issues "racism" /s mesk managed to extend my proposition a layer further[2017-6-11. : 6:56 pm] IskatuMesk -- I've got two perfectly working eyes. I don't need to know anything other than the contours of the undercarriage and the shine of the conductor.[2017-6-11. : 6:54 pm] TiKels -- People with no education on the study of heat transfer talking about how "temperature is all you need to know, to know if something is hot"[2017-6-11. : 6:53 pm] TiKels -- Not on reddit. You wouldn't believe how much people think they know about anything[2017-6-11. : 6:53 pm] TiKels -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Well, the bar at which people feel qualified to discuss social issues (or politics, for that matter) is pretty low, like "knowing the language" low. Not saying that's a good or bad thing, but it's not programming or engineering. [2017-6-11. : 6:50 pm] IskatuMesk -- thought there might be an "n" but after so much spot writing I let just about anything coherent slide now[2017-6-11. : 6:50 pm] Voyager7456 -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: NudeRaider also that sentence doesn't seem grammatically correct. Can someone corerct it please? "too good an opportunity" |