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[2025-10-07. : 4:28 pm] Zoan -- for each pixel: for each seed: if dist(pixel,seed) < prev_min: closest_seed = seed end end region[closest_seed].append(pixel) end[2025-10-07. : 1:40 pm]  Vrael -- now excuse me while I go rewrite a voronoi tessellation because the open source versions are noobs :coolguywithsunglasses:[2025-10-06. : 11:08 pm] Vrael -- what I said is not anywhere close to a well articulated political argument for sure and I realize its just base name calling[2025-10-04. : 9:35 pm]  Ultraviolet -- VraelVrael shouted: which would also explain why soulless monsters are trying to destroy the united states because they dont have sufficiently complex amount of brain fortunately we've got an awesome admin fighting against those monsters  [2025-10-03. : 10:55 pm] Vrael -- which would also explain why soulless monsters are trying to destroy the united states because they dont have sufficiently complex amount of brain[2025-10-03. : 10:55 pm] Vrael -- Oh_ManOh_Man shouted: It's not reductionist fallacy. Get a theist to make any claim about what a soul actually does, and scientist will show how it's actually the brain responsible. Not that many theists try to even attempt that. Soul and god are the same like that, unable to be found anywhere by science what is soul is just an emergent property of a sufficiently complex amount of brain[2025-10-02. : 5:01 pm] Zoan -- But there's that korean SC mmorpg right. It's possible on 1.1.16 for sure[2025-10-02. : 2:50 pm] NudeRaider -- I imagine if someone figures it out it would have to be accessing an external AI-API, which sounds pretty complicated and restrictimg to do.[2025-10-02. : 12:19 am] Ultraviolet -- honestly I wouldn't be surprised if some crazy fuck figured out how to do it at some point[2025-9-30. : 2:08 pm] NudeRaider -- * asterisk (also lol I was looking at the word and noticed it looks off but I didn't see what until I sent it[2025-9-30. : 2:04 pm] NudeRaider -- Oh_ManOh_Man shouted: even if i just accept it at face value* (I could never find the christian god concept compelling at my current level of knowledge of biblical scholarship - I know too much of how it's clearly man-made you forgot to close the bracket. Now I'm confused as to where the main statement continues, also the asterik throws me off. Where you do you explain it?![2025-9-30. : 12:17 pm] Oh_Man -- easiest way i could sum up my thinking on this is I actually hold very similar opinion to christians. I too think the various religions of the world are untrue - I just go one religion further[2025-9-30. : 12:16 pm] Oh_Man -- even if i just accept it at face value* (I could never find the christian god concept compelling at my current level of knowledge of biblical scholarship - I know too much of how it's clearly man-made[2025-9-30. : 12:14 pm] Oh_Man -- but for the sake of fairness i have engaged with the religious element zoan and I look forward to your thoughts, because i don't think the god concept gets anyone anywhere[2025-9-30. : 12:13 pm] Oh_Man -- if someone comes to you and says 1+1=3 that's not arrogance to dismiss them. You just know something they don't[2025-9-29. : 10:08 pm] Ultraviolet -- ZoanZoan shouted: Oh_Man Well I mean I'd consider it as a hypothesis, but labelling it as 'fact' that my God is non-existent is a bit underhanded right lol That general attitude is what I would describe as arrogance. Considering his beliefs about the world as infallible and not even worthy of discussing further. One could argue he didn't want to derail the free will discussion with a theology discussion, but like you, I believe it's a relevant factor in the greater discussion.[2025-9-29. : 6:12 pm] NudeRaider -- ZoanZoan shouted: Yo who wants to make a new and improved starcraft game with me I'll sign up for translation work when you have a beta ready  [2025-9-29. : 3:29 pm] Zoan -- Oh_ManOh_Man shouted: are theists willing to consider the fact that their god is actually non-existent, a work of fiction? no? that is a level of arrogance that no atheist can ever hope to reach Well I mean I'd consider it as a hypothesis, but labelling it as 'fact' that my God is non-existent is a bit underhanded right lol[2025-9-29. : 3:08 pm] Zoan -- UltravioletUltraviolet shouted: Zoan yeah, it seems oh_man has a strong atheist bias where once he reads any mention of god, he hones in on that, dismisses any connected ideas and moves on. the arrogance of atheists I didn't sense any arrogance in his reply; I just thought he missed the overall point (which is not an argument for the existence of God...) I was making (by honing in on the tangential comment that I do believe in God) and no one else responded to you. personally not particularly interested in discussing the topic at length, but I tend to agree with the direction you were going.[2025-9-28. : 7:45 pm] Ultraviolet -- https://staredit.net/topic/6569/4/#90 ayeee champ got in the ring[2025-9-28. : 3:15 pm] Ultraviolet -- lil-Infernolil-Inferno shouted: what if peepee poopoo good point, agree[2025-9-27. : 11:23 pm] NudeRaider -- religion only exists because people want it to exist. They need it to deal with all their shit in live, to fill knowledge gaps, or just to have guidance, comfort and community. It's nothing real, but still faith has profound effect on believers. And for that I envy theists. So it has personal use, but not to explain the world.[2025-9-27. : 5:22 pm] Ultraviolet -- It absolutely is. You did it again with the pigeon experiment (and made a hasty generalization). You're taking one case of pigeon superstition and using it to explain away all of religion, which involves far more than that. You’re also leaning on argument from ignorance. "We can’t prove it’s true, so it must be false." Science has massive gaps in knowledge, so treating lack of evidence as proof of non-existence isn’t reasonable. There’s far too much we don’t understand to be that certain.[2025-9-27. : 3:58 pm] Oh_Man -- the superstition in the pigeon experiment by BJ Skinner is the only explanation u need for why religions exist (and many other behaviours)[2025-9-27. : 3:54 pm] Oh_Man -- It's not reductionist fallacy. Get a theist to make any claim about what a soul actually does, and scientist will show how it's actually the brain responsible. Not that many theists try to even attempt that. Soul and god are the same like that, unable to be found anywhere by science[2025-9-27. : 3:50 pm] Ultraviolet -- Personally, I lean toward agnostic theism. I suspect all world religions point to something real, but filtered through human distortion and, at times, systems of control. That could explain the inconsistencies across traditions without dismissing the entire concept outright.[2025-9-27. : 3:46 pm] Ultraviolet -- In this case, Zoan shared his ideas openly, while your response came across as dismissive and built on shaky reasoning. Claiming that because personality traits can be traced to the brain, the soul therefore cannot exist is a reductionist fallacy.[2025-9-27. : 3:44 pm] Ultraviolet -- I’d say arrogance exists on both sides in roughly equal levels. How are you quantifying it? It seems to me you just perceive yours as less because it aligns with your own beliefs. From my perspective, religious people usually operate from faith, but they don’t typically carry the same smug sense of superiority that I often see from atheists when dismissing others’ views.[2025-9-27. : 2:46 pm] Oh_Man -- are theists willing to consider the fact that their god is actually non-existent, a work of fiction? no? that is a level of arrogance that no atheist can ever hope to reach[2025-9-26. : 9:22 pm] Ultraviolet -- ZoanZoan shouted: Idk I felt like my initial point was kinda missed / not addressed yeah, it seems oh_man has a strong atheist bias where once he reads any mention of god, he hones in on that, dismisses any connected ideas and moves on. the arrogance of atheists and no one else responded to you. personally not particularly interested in discussing the topic at length, but I tend to agree with the direction you were going.[2025-9-26. : 7:29 pm] Zoan -- UltravioletUltraviolet shouted: "Maybe this sounds dumb but re-reading comments here... I agree with myself. :l" imagine that lmao xD[2025-9-26. : 7:17 pm] Ultraviolet -- "Maybe this sounds dumb but re-reading comments here... I agree with myself. :l" imagine that lmao[2025-9-26. : 2:16 pm] Ultraviolet -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: and apparently neither is he, so it would just end in disaster disaster may be a little dramatic  [2025-9-26. : 2:15 pm] Ultraviolet -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: Ultraviolet before him we had like 30 in a row Full page in the shoutbox proper (staredit.net/shoutbox/)[2025-9-25. : 11:33 pm] NudeRaider -- UltravioletUltraviolet shouted: before him we had like 30 in a row we never manage to get quite a full page before someone breaks the combo  [2025-9-25. : 11:19 pm] Ultraviolet -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: "but the fact remains that everything is happening inevitably" no. why you over here? get back in the ring, champ![2025-9-25. : 9:07 pm] NudeRaider -- "but the fact remains that everything is happening inevitably" no.[2025-9-25. : 2:54 am] Ultraviolet -- we never manage to get quite a full page before someone breaks the combo |
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