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[2018-3-15. : 2:05 am]  Moose -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: thekian jjf28 wait a tick.. here I'm reading your definitions in reverse order and getting confused, of course discussions of politicians (those professionally engaged in politics) relates to politics jjf is a MESS.[2018-3-15. : 2:04 am]  Lanthanide -- I was agreeing to the farmer statement, not the provably incorrect statement about sleep[2018-3-15. : 2:03 am] thekian -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: thekian jjf28 wait a tick.. here I'm reading your definitions in reverse order and getting confused, of course discussions of politicians (those professionally engaged in politics) relates to politics Again, a politician is not inherently political.[2018-3-15. : 2:00 am]  jjf28 -- thekianthekian shouted: Political - adj. - of or relating to politics jjf28jjf28 shouted: I'd say that definition is exclusive enough to make your statement correct wait a tick.. here I'm reading your definitions in reverse order and getting confused, of course discussions of politicians (those professionally engaged in politics) relates to politics [2018-3-15. : 1:37 am] jjf28 -- that's tricky, cause while their job description may not involve politics or being elected they're certainly employing politics in a professional capacity  [2018-3-15. : 1:31 am] thekian -- The "area" most likely is simply a blanket term for municipal governance.[2018-3-15. : 1:30 am] thekian -- The dictionary writers assume the people who read them are intelligent enough to use context.[2018-3-15. : 1:29 am] Vrael -- I like how it includes governance of an "area" which is just broad enough to include things like the politics of judging a ballroom dance competition[2018-3-15. : 1:29 am] thekian -- thekianthekian shouted: *cough* Allow me. Discussing a politician is not inherently political unless the discussion involves his policies, election, or other actual political subjects. So, for example, calling Trump a disgusting scumbag, while true, has nothing to do with politics simply because he is president. However, saying... oh... that people should have their rights taken away for voting for someone IS political, because it concerns political matters. Also  , regardless of whether or not you were trolling, the content of your shout is still a fairly good example of politics. [2018-3-15. : 1:27 am] jjf28 -- I'd say that definition is exclusive enough to make your statement correct [2018-3-15. : 1:27 am] thekian -- *cough* Sorry. In any case, my logic is sound based on this definition.[2018-3-15. : 1:27 am] thekian -- THOU MUST NOW CASH ME OUTSIDE, BROTHER. WHAT IS THINE REACTION TO THAT?![2018-3-15. : 1:26 am] thekian -- "The activities associated with the governance of a country or area, especially the debate between parties having power"[2018-3-15. : 1:25 am] jjf28 -- thekianthekian shouted: As for politics, I would define it as matters concerning the process of government at large. yea but I don't accept asserted definitions when I've provided a dictionary definition [2018-3-15. : 1:25 am] thekian -- Therefore, while politicians are involved in things which are political, they are not political per say.[2018-3-15. : 1:25 am] thekian -- As for politics, I would define it as matters concerning the process of government at large.[2018-3-15. : 1:24 am] jjf28 -- thekianthekian shouted: *cough* Allow me. Discussing a politician is not inherently political unless the discussion involves his policies, election, or other actual political subjects. So, for example, calling Trump a disgusting scumbag, while true, has nothing to do with politics simply because he is president. However, saying... oh... that people should have their rights taken away for voting for someone IS political, because it concerns political matters. what definition of politics/political are you using? I may agree depending on which is chosen [2018-3-15. : 1:22 am] thekian -- *cough* Allow me. Discussing a politician is not inherently political unless the discussion involves his policies, election, or other actual political subjects. So, for example, calling Trump a disgusting scumbag, while true, has nothing to do with politics simply because he is president. However, saying... oh... that people should have their rights taken away for voting for someone IS political, because it concerns political matters.[2018-3-15. : 1:04 am] Pr0nogo -- thekianthekian shouted: o LanthanideLanthanide shouted: so fail thekianthekian shouted: :wop: [2018-3-15. : 12:53 am] Lanthanide -- someone isn't engaging in gardening when they discuss gardening[2018-3-15. : 12:53 am] Lanthanide -- eg, someone is engaging in politics when they discuss a subject[2018-3-15. : 12:53 am] Lanthanide -- it didn't help that your use of the term "political" was ambiguous: jjf28jjf28 shouted: discussing a politician is by definition political [2018-3-15. : 12:52 am] jjf28 -- LanthanideLanthanide shouted: but that's not saying much at all. it's like saying someone who is a singer, and there are articles about them in a newspaper, you would put in the 'entertainment' category and not 'gardening' ... exactly?  [2018-3-15. : 12:51 am] Lanthanide -- but that's not saying much at all. it's like saying someone who is a singer, and there are articles about them in a newspaper, you would put in the 'entertainment' category and not 'gardening'[2018-3-15. : 12:43 am] jjf28 -- @SI jjf28jjf28 shouted: hey SI any must-see places 'round Fort Myers? [2018-3-15. : 12:41 am] jjf28 -- LanthanideLanthanide shouted: I'd agree only in so far as you're likely to make factual statements about politicians that you wouldn't make about other famous people LanthanideLanthanide shouted: so the reason for the statement is that they're a political person I'd go further than that, I would web statements and facts concerning anyone who officially held elected office closer to the sphere of politics in a search engine or under newspaper categories, I'd say they have the inherent characteristic of being related to politics, that may not be, or even nearly be their most important or relevant characteristic, but it's an accurate characteristic to assign to them[2018-3-15. : 12:36 am] Lanthanide -- so the reason for the statement is that they're a political person[2018-3-15. : 12:36 am] Lanthanide -- I'd agree only in so far as you're likely to make factual statements about politicians that you wouldn't make about other famous people[2018-3-15. : 12:24 am] jjf28 -- LanthanideLanthanide shouted: you can make factual statements about politicians without those statements themselves being political I wouldn't call a statement political because a statement being political has its own meaning, but I would say the statements have an inherent political character to them when the author or the subject is a politician; especially (but not exclusively) when they concern the ethos of that politician[2018-3-15. : 12:11 am] Lanthanide -- you can make factual statements about politicians without those statements themselves being political[2018-3-15. : 12:05 am] jjf28 -- DarkenedFantasiesDarkenedFantasies shouted: Just because it's about Trump doesn't make it political LMA0. Could've been about just some random dude's vlog from YouTube, wouldn't have changed anything. nice meme "politics: the activities associated with the governance of a country or other area, especially the debate or conflict among individuals or parties having or hoping to achieve power." [2018-3-14. : 11:12 pm] thekian -- Pr0nogoPr0nogo shouted: thekian RACIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! mad[2018-3-14. : 11:12 pm] Pr0nogo -- thekianthekian shouted: :wop: RACIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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