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[2019-5-13. : 11:44 pm]  Suicidal Insanity -- It has a run (unattended) option - maybe that skips the prompt[2019-5-13. : 11:43 pm]  NudeRaider -- But I can see why it's the safer way to always have a confirmation when stuff would get deleted.[2019-5-13. : 11:43 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- Meh it isn't recommended to mix 4K and 512b sector drives in the NAS  [2019-5-13. : 11:41 pm] NudeRaider -- Suicidal InsanitySuicidal Insanity shouted: Since I use it to backup my photos, I like to confirm the only folders that will have stuff deleted / overwritten in em are the folders I recently culled or edited Well in my case it's safe to assume that when I delete files from the live folders it wasn't by accident, but because I wanted to get rid of them (for good), so I don't need the software to let me confirm that. It'll always be the case. And if for some reason it wasn't I wouldn't use the "GO NOW" button, but would copy the files back from the backup first.[2019-5-13. : 11:38 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- ZoanZoan shouted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEqJYNS0G1E&t=1987s Cool[2019-5-13. : 11:38 pm] NudeRaider -- I think it's weird that I don't find it weird that two Germans talk in English.[2019-5-13. : 11:38 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- Since I use it to backup my photos, I like to confirm the only folders that will have stuff deleted / overwritten in em are the folders I recently culled or edited[2019-5-13. : 11:36 pm] NudeRaider -- Suicidal InsanitySuicidal Insanity shouted: NudeRaider You don't need to configure it every time I realize that. Presumably it's all in the profile. but you said you need to confirm it, and wouldn't know why I wouldn't want to confirm it (each time)[2019-5-13. : 11:35 pm] Zoan -- Suicidal InsanitySuicidal Insanity shouted: I convinced em to add a bigger string section to the todo list literally the one thing I was going to say I did care about[2019-5-13. : 11:35 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: Suicidal Insanity uh because once I configured it I don't need to confirm it again each time. You don't need to configure it every time[2019-5-13. : 11:35 pm] NudeRaider -- ZoanZoan shouted: did they make any changes? I didn't. Did you?[2019-5-13. : 11:35 pm] NudeRaider -- Suicidal InsanitySuicidal Insanity shouted: But I dont know why you would want to uh because once I configured it I don't need to confirm it again each time.[2019-5-13. : 11:35 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- I convinced em to add a bigger string section to the todo list[2019-5-13. : 11:34 pm] NudeRaider -- Suicidal InsanitySuicidal Insanity shouted: NudeRaider It has a GUI and aa profile list, then you run a profile and it shows the delta before copying / deleting files. or a way run it with a profile as parameter, so it starts that right away?[2019-5-13. : 11:33 pm] NudeRaider -- Suicidal InsanitySuicidal Insanity shouted: NudeRaider It has a GUI and aa profile list, then you run a profile and it shows the delta before copying / deleting files. ah too bad. Know any "1 button fire" software?[2019-5-13. : 11:32 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: Suicidal Insanity that's what I need. Ideally just copy over the delta. Suicidal Insanity hope it doesn't run it in the background? Ideally it'd be just a desktop / start menu item that when run copies whatever I had previously configured. It has a GUI and aa profile list, then you run a profile and it shows the delta before copying / deleting files.[2019-5-13. : 11:31 pm] NudeRaider -- Suicidal InsanitySuicidal Insanity shouted: For one way sync that's what I need. Ideally just copy over the delta. Suicidal InsanitySuicidal Insanity shouted: I use syncbackfree hope it doesn't run it in the background? Ideally it'd be just a desktop / start menu item that when run copies whatever I had previously configured.[2019-5-13. : 11:27 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- If I replace the 6TB drive in my 2 drive JBOD NAS with a 12TB drive, I should be good on space until at least christmas - and if the 6 or 8 bay enclosure is ever on massive sale by then I can get it and then I'll have plenty of room for 2020[2019-5-13. : 11:25 pm] NudeRaider -- whats most hassle-free way to sync a few folders to an external drive which you only occasionally attach to do the backup?[2019-5-13. : 11:22 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- Ya 150 more, vs 380 for the 12TB drives. (Or 2xx for 10TB drives taken out of USB enclosures)[2019-5-13. : 11:21 pm] NudeRaider -- true, but you said 8 is only insignificantly more expensive. But leaves you with more options.[2019-5-13. : 11:21 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- But 8 bays is a newer model than 6 bay and only 150 more[2019-5-13. : 11:20 pm] NudeRaider -- All of these options are not enough when you want to have 40TB in 5 years. So maybe do go for 8 bays, and just more capacity 1 drive at a time, when you find a good deal.[2019-5-13. : 11:15 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- If you add a 12TB drive to both configurations you have 38TB vs 36TB usable[2019-5-13. : 11:14 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: Suicidal Insanity That's pretty efficient considering you have 3 different sizes. you only lose 2,5TB compared to what you'd get if you had 4 drives, each with 9,5TB (12+12+8+6 = 38; 38 / 4 = 9,5) Ya total capacity is 38TB, available space is 26TB. Raid V with 3 x 12TB drives would be 24TB available.[2019-5-13. : 11:11 pm] NudeRaider -- Suicidal InsanitySuicidal Insanity shouted: It actually does even better, it gets 26TB That's pretty efficient considering you have 3 different sizes. you only lose 2,5TB compared to what you'd get if you had 4 drives, each with 9,5TB (12+12+8+6 = 38; 38 / 4 = 9,5)[2019-5-13. : 11:11 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- Unfortunately there is a cheap option for a 4bay NAS, and 5+ bays are expensive, and 8 bay isn't much more than 6, so it is all very nonlinear  [2019-5-13. : 11:09 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- Replacing a 6TB with 12TB increaes it fro 26 to 32, while adding one means it increases to 38 - so if the cost of one more drive bay is less than half the cost of a drive it is worthwhile[2019-5-13. : 11:07 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- So 12+12+8+6 means 6TB raid V across 4 drives => 18TB, + 2TB raid V across 3 drives ->4TB, + 2TB raid V across 2 drives -> 2 TB -> 24TB[2019-5-13. : 11:06 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- gonna do synology hybrid raid - thats basically raid V, except it does raid 5 with lowest capacity drive across the array, then more raid 5 using remaining space on second lowest capacity drive etc[2019-5-13. : 11:06 pm] NudeRaider -- Suicidal InsanitySuicidal Insanity shouted: 12TB x 2 + 8TB + 6TB fits in any size enclosure, but it costs more per TB to replace 6/8TB with 12TB than to get a bigger enclosure and add a new 12TB drive then you could just do JBOD.[2019-5-13. : 11:04 pm] NudeRaider -- Suicidal InsanitySuicidal Insanity shouted: (And offsite backup of course) ya then definitely do RAID 5. And if you actually need that much storage, go for the 12TB HGST. Looks solid on backblaze (no idea about price). You'd need 4 bays, but maybe get 5-6 bays for a bit of breathing room.[2019-5-13. : 11:04 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- So I need to know final estimated capacity, then determine what size enclosure is optimal for a total price per TB point[2019-5-13. : 11:03 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- 12TB x 2 + 8TB + 6TB fits in any size enclosure, but it costs more per TB to replace 6/8TB with 12TB than to get a bigger enclosure and add a new 12TB drive[2019-5-13. : 11:02 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- If amazon cancels that order I may just buy a second 12TB drive instead[2019-5-13. : 11:02 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- And I have 2 cheap 10TB drives I ordered end of march which may actually be sent to me soon - then I'd have 5 drives to start with[2019-5-13. : 11:01 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- If I get raid V, I can stop mirroring and just use the NAS[2019-5-13. : 11:01 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- Right now I have a 12TB drive in my PC, and that is mirrored to a NAS with 8TB+6TB[2019-5-13. : 11:00 pm] NudeRaider -- oh, I didn't realize that you'd immediately fill it up with 20TB (or 9TB as you initially said). That changes things a bit. [2019-5-13. : 11:00 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- Downside to getting a second system is you need 9 drives to optimally use raid V, 8 drives data 1 drive parity. If you get 2 4 drive systems you have 6 drives data 2 drives parity[2019-5-13. : 10:58 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- at 4TB / year cat photos I'll need 40TB in 5 years. That assumes I don't ever buy a camera with more megapixels |
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