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[2016-7-10. : 3:31 am]  Sacrieur -- Because they were nice enough to give me one despite not having a degree.[2016-7-10. : 3:13 am]  Moose -- Oh, the executive order says the agency head can give a waiver for the training. Maybe that's it LMAO[2016-7-10. : 3:13 am] CecilSunkure -- I can still get you a referral if you are. Internship or full-time[2016-7-10. : 3:11 am] jjf28 -- but if I do get a gov't job I'll now know to study rather than scroll down to 'I agree' on the classification training  [2016-7-10. : 3:06 am] Moose -- And TBH, she really should have known unless she was exempted from her mandatory training. Executive Order 13526 and 5 CFR 930.301, IMO.[2016-7-10. : 2:59 am] Moose -- And I'm kind of disappointed that someone so apparently lacking in fundamentals of information security can be head of a federal agency handling such information[2016-7-10. : 2:56 am] Moose -- Yeah, and I feel the laws should be modified to make something like this punishable, since it apparently isn't.[2016-7-10. : 2:56 am] jjf28 -- kay, I'm just over the whole double standards in the DOJ memes, she still was sucky about it  [2016-7-10. : 2:54 am] Moose -- I guess where I'm headed is more this shouldn't have even happened, tbh[2016-7-10. : 2:54 am] jjf28 -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: And if she didn't, there really fucking needs to be LMAO QFT[2016-7-10. : 2:53 am] jjf28 -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: And her IT staff neglects to mention that? If she had someone dedicated to spot and report on security issues, you have a point[2016-7-10. : 2:52 am] Moose -- Somebody in the chain had to have knowledge here, even if it's not her[2016-7-10. : 2:52 am] Moose -- Entire agencies that handle classified have to sit through hours of mandatory training yearly on how to handle this type of information[2016-7-10. : 2:50 am] jjf28 -- not as if she was putting stuff up on Reddit, she was using a private server that, most likely as her thinking went, was secure[2016-7-10. : 2:48 am] Moose -- If you're putting that on the internet, you're either doing it intentionally or very lacking in knowledge of computers[2016-7-10. : 2:47 am] Moose -- "Such material would cause "exceptionally grave damage" to national security if made publicly available." this was put on the internet[2016-7-10. : 2:47 am] jjf28 -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: jjf28 Mini Moose 2707 so... the former? Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Pretty much, unless we want to repeal the 5th LMAO still not clear, do you say she was knowingly/intentionally making classified info more vulnerable?[2016-7-10. : 2:44 am] Moose -- The feeling I get is, this is really borderline nonsense where they did stupid shit because it was easy, which makes me say the laws protecting this information is defective given nothing can be done about it.[2016-7-10. : 2:43 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- Repeal all of them, then nobody will have anything to complain about[2016-7-10. : 2:42 am] jjf28 -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: well first you'll have to clarify: Mini Moose 2707 implying she was leaking info on purpose, or implying we have to prosecute so we don't enable this tactic? Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Proving intent is pretty much a crapshoot in this one. The best we can get is they did it to take the easy way out of using government-authorized IT so... the former?[2016-7-10. : 2:41 am] Moose -- Proving intent is pretty much a crapshoot in this one. The best we can get is they did it to take the easy way out of using government-authorized IT[2016-7-10. : 2:40 am] jjf28 -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: But I'd also like to see more examples setting a precedent of people let off the hook in similar situations I don't have them, Comey says he does, I see him as a valid authority on Clinton's emails[2016-7-10. : 2:39 am] Moose -- But I'd also like to see more examples setting a precedent of people let off the hook in similar situations[2016-7-10. : 2:38 am] jjf28 -- well first you'll have to clarify: Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Right, so you leak whatever, just look ambiguous and say it wasn't intentional LMAO implying she was leaking info on purpose, or implying we have to prosecute so we don't enable this tactic?[2016-7-10. : 2:37 am] Moose -- I'll concede that if a lack of precedent is the excuse, then the laws protecting this information are, in my opinion, defective.[2016-7-10. : 2:34 am] Moose -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: well now you're just trolling/a conspiracy nut And now you're committing an ad hominem fallacy LMAO[2016-7-10. : 2:33 am] Moose -- And make sure not to give it to anyone specific, just send it out on the open internet, w/e[2016-7-10. : 2:30 am] Moose -- Right, so you leak whatever, just look ambiguous and say it wasn't intentional LMAO[2016-7-10. : 2:27 am] jjf28 -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Yeah, tell that to people like Brezler and Snowden LMAO Snowden: fully intentional massive release of classified information, flees before the lawyers get started, Brezler: active duty, military is very strict on most any misconduct; Hillary is a private citizen, who, unless you want to challenge Comey's under-oath statements on his precedent search, didn't do anything that in the past has warranted prosecution - it would almost be a double standard to prosecute her if his statements were correct[2016-7-10. : 2:18 am] lil-Inferno -- Dem0nDem0n shouted: Didn't feel like waiting 3 weeks You have more time than you have money IMO.[2016-7-10. : 1:32 am] Moose -- Oh well, she and the State Dept only did it for convenience and it wasn't intentional, guess that Top Secret over the open internet is okay[2016-7-10. : 1:15 am] jjf28 -- the decision not to prosecute seems quite reasonable, bit late to enact HR type punishments; so I'm having trouble seeing the double standards people keep yelling about, what it says about Hillary's responsibility/character I won't touch on [2016-7-10. : 12:15 am] jjf28 -- prolly ~all political theater but might be worth a watch: https://youtu.be/8ai1Z8OtEjU[2016-7-09. : 10:30 pm]  Lanthanide -- I think Doom 3's version of Hell was a bit more interesting than DOOM's, though[2016-7-09. : 10:30 pm] Lanthanide -- it's "oh, there's some armor, now looking at this room, if I pick up that armor, where will a monster closet suddenly open?"[2016-7-09. : 10:29 pm] Lanthanide -- so instead of saying "oh, there's some armor, I'll pick it up" and being surprised by a monster[2016-7-09. : 10:29 pm] Lanthanide -- also the levels are overly mazy, with small rooms and corridoors, way too many lame-ass zombies later in the game (which provide no threat), and FAR too many monster closets[2016-7-09. : 10:28 pm] Lanthanide -- it makes everything 'atmospheric' but because they tried to design the levels to play it up, and didn't put in any sort of general illumination in a great many places, it gets really tiresome after a while[2016-7-09. : 10:27 pm] Lanthanide -- so it's possible to have a line between lit-surface and pitch black, which simply never happens in real life[2016-7-09. : 10:26 pm] Lanthanide -- the realistic lighting and shadows was anything but, because everything is either illuminated, or not |
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