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[2016-7-26. : 9:22 am]  Sand Wraith -- Okay I see what you mean now, Gp, Lanth. It doesn't help at all with breaking stereotypes.[2016-7-26. : 9:16 am] Lanthanide -- but when the only homosexual character in a particular piece of media falls squarely into stereotypes for homosexuals, I call shennanigans[2016-7-26. : 9:15 am] Lanthanide -- if she weren't the only homosexual character in the game then I'd give them the benefit of the doubt that it wasn't stereotyping[2016-7-26. : 9:14 am] Lanthanide -- like the thought process was either: 1. lets make a big beefy tank woman.... oh, lets make her gay 'cause she's butch! or 2. lets make a lesbian character.... that means she has to be butch, right?![2016-7-26. : 9:10 am] Sand Wraith -- LanthanideLanthanide shouted: Generalpie Generalpie yeah, but why choose this particular female to make into a token lesbian? idk, but it's in interesting given Russia's track record with the rights and protection of their LGBTQ citizens.[2016-7-26. : 9:08 am] Sand Wraith -- besides, when I say I'm intolerant to intolerant beliefs, I'm more interested in the behavior that is expressed. However, if they try to disseminate that intolerance, I'm perfectly fine with talking to them (except that apparently, that's intolerance!!!)[2016-7-26. : 9:06 am] Lanthanide -- GeneralpieGeneralpie shouted: I'd say the fact that she's lesbian is pandering. GeneralpieGeneralpie shouted: She could literally be exactly the same and not be a lesbian, and it'd make no difference yeah, but why choose this particular female to make into a token lesbian?[2016-7-26. : 9:06 am] Sand Wraith -- GeneralpieGeneralpie shouted: Sand Wraith I think one must. one must tolerate?... I don't think so. Tolerating intolerance is tantamount to intolerance itself because the behavior of tolerance permits the intolerant behavior to continue, proliferate, or escalate. Taking a black and white approach to bring tolerant toward intolerance is suicidal on the part of the tolerant because if the intolerant party decided to reproduce its intolerant ideology, the tolerant party can only roll over and die by the Nth generation.[2016-7-26. : 8:36 am] Generalpie -- Sand WraithSand Wraith shouted: why did i type recently? how did I paste my old clipboard? fuck this phone piece of shit swipe keyboard Swype keeps getting progressively worse[2016-7-26. : 8:33 am] Generalpie -- Sand WraithSand Wraith shouted: I think the belief that a fully tolerant society must tolerate intolerant individuals is worth a cat's turd. It seems like the people that hold that belief think they should be allowed to disparage or discriminate others based on lies or ignorance and should go unbothered. I'm opposed to this completely I think one must.[2016-7-26. : 8:33 am] Generalpie -- Sand WraithSand Wraith shouted: i think the better answer is no product, since no one defined differing they Sand WraithSand Wraith shouted: ignore that. you're right i think ?[2016-7-26. : 8:28 am] Sand Wraith -- why did i type recently? how did I paste my old clipboard? fuck this phone piece of shit swipe keyboard[2016-7-26. : 8:26 am] Sand Wraith -- I think the belief that a fully tolerant society must tolerate intolerant individuals is worth a cat's turd. It seems like the people that hold that belief think they should be allowed to disparage or discriminate others based on lies or ignorance and should go unbothered. I'm opposed to this completely[2016-7-26. : 8:26 am] Sand Wraith -- My point is that pointing out that Overwatch tried to pander to minorities is recently narrow minded.[2016-7-26. : 8:24 am] Sand Wraith -- i think the better answer is no product, since no one defined differing they[2016-7-26. : 8:21 am] Sand Wraith -- All of capitalism is pandering. I think it's a stupid perspective.[2016-7-26. : 8:20 am] Sand Wraith -- They couldn't get an Australian accent for explosions guy, Do New Zealanders have an accent? Pig Hook guy sounds just American, he has a native skin because reasons?? Pharah has a native American skin cuz reasons? there isn't an actual African American character (Lucio is Brazilian)... These are the major fuckups, most else is okay i think[2016-7-26. : 8:18 am] Generalpie -- Overwatch is fun, but it panders, but at the end of the day Blizzard pandered well enough, or made the game solid enough to make huge amounts of sales in numerous countries[2016-7-26. : 8:17 am] Generalpie -- Which is basically none aside from her short character description[2016-7-26. : 8:17 am] Sand Wraith -- Honestly I think Overwatch is a shitshow and often borderline racist[2016-7-26. : 8:16 am] Generalpie -- D. Va, clearly the best character in the game, has exactly the same amount of lore as Zarya[2016-7-26. : 8:16 am] Sand Wraith -- it's not pandering when someone asks for representation and someone else decided "good idea" that's what coming to an agreement is, meditation, socialization[2016-7-26. : 8:15 am] Sand Wraith -- I'd say that's a retarded argument and token gay or lesbian characters are more like a disdainful representation done by cis het people[2016-7-26. : 8:14 am] Sand Wraith -- and also Blizzard made it a point for Overwatch to be "diverse" (not that I think they did a great or good job of it. mediocre at best)[2016-7-26. : 8:14 am] Generalpie -- She could literally be exactly the same and not be a lesbian, and it'd make no difference[2016-7-26. : 8:12 am] Generalpie -- Her voice lines own it, and I think she has some of the best voice lines in the game[2016-7-26. : 8:12 am] Generalpie -- But the willingness of Blizzard to change when a vocal minority complain shows that they lack the tact to stick with their artistic vision[2016-7-26. : 8:11 am] Sand Wraith -- it's pandering maybe but it's not like she's terribly unrealistic lol[2016-7-26. : 8:11 am] Generalpie -- I dislike that argument. She's tough because she's russian and being physically strong was in her line of work[2016-7-26. : 8:05 am] Lanthanide -- why can't a lesbian character just look like a woman? why do they have to butch her up?[2016-7-26. : 8:00 am] Generalpie -- But it doesn't matter because Overwatch's lore is so sparse so it doesn't matter[2016-7-26. : 7:52 am] Sand Wraith -- GeneralpieGeneralpie shouted: Lanthanide Only the Zarya effects are. implications[2016-7-26. : 7:50 am] Generalpie -- LanthanideLanthanide shouted: Generalpie sounds gay Only the Zarya effects are.[2016-7-26. : 7:29 am] Lanthanide -- GeneralpieGeneralpie shouted: It makes my mouse, mousepad, and keyboard super sparkly and full of eye candy sounds gay[2016-7-26. : 6:29 am] Generalpie -- I wish Razer didn't make shit headphones so I could pair them with it too[2016-7-26. : 6:28 am] Generalpie -- It makes my mouse, mousepad, and keyboard super sparkly and full of eye candy[2016-7-26. : 6:28 am] Generalpie -- I do like that it's the first AAA game that uses Razer's Chroma API[2016-7-26. : 6:26 am] Generalpie -- $40 entry fee for PC, plus microtransactions for random cosmetic items[2016-7-26. : 6:17 am] Generalpie -- A bit of Overwatch right now, but it's definitely not very fun of a game alone, so I'll probably do some CS: GO |
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