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[2016-11-10. : 9:19 am]  CecilSunkure -- you've experience hmong people with 15 kids for government benefits[2016-11-10. : 9:18 am] CecilSunkure -- They're self-sufficient because of hollywood and silicon valley[2016-11-10. : 9:18 am] CecilSunkure -- They also have the largest population in the US of non-contributing citizens[2016-11-10. : 9:16 am] CecilSunkure -- Check this shit out. CA thinks it's a pillar of freedom and equality[2016-11-10. : 9:14 am] LoveLess -- She is hmong isnt she? Never heard anyone else say something like that. Especially not in Natomas[2016-11-10. : 9:14 am] CecilSunkure -- http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/california-dreamin-many-golden-state-want-secede-trump-s-u-n681796[2016-11-10. : 9:14 am] CecilSunkure -- Did you guys hear there's a small group or whatever in CA that wants to secede from US?[2016-11-10. : 9:13 am] CecilSunkure -- Also from stories she tells me, California is the most fucked up place in the US by far[2016-11-10. : 9:12 am] LoveLess -- And where these studies were done is also a big factor, like asking around in Harlem versus Toronto. You're going to get bias on some fronts.[2016-11-10. : 9:12 am] CecilSunkure -- So to summarize my shouts: A) CA is racist, B) black lives matter rhetoric is dangerous, C) focus on facts, economics and geography instead of race[2016-11-10. : 9:12 am]  TF- -- well if we did one it would probably be about as half-assed as the real ones[2016-11-10. : 9:11 am] LoveLess -- Because honestly, how many surveys have any of YOU done that are supposedly going around[2016-11-10. : 9:10 am] CecilSunkure -- yeah, you want to build a case so someone can reasonably conclude the study is true[2016-11-10. : 9:10 am] LoveLess -- And yeah, you cant dismiss studies, but should always find additional studies to confirm each other (or disprove)[2016-11-10. : 9:08 am] LoveLess -- So "she got it because she is prettier than me" when the chick is actually lazy and wants handouts, where the one who gets rhe the position sctually worked for it.[2016-11-10. : 9:08 am] TF- -- the fact that almost everything depends on funding that can be given or taken away for arbitrary/biased reasons is quite bad[2016-11-10. : 9:07 am] LoveLess -- It is already illegal to offer such deals, so there is not much more to be done. Also there are more cases in which people falsely accuse managers of favoritism out of jealousy. Hear that from HR departments all the time.[2016-11-10. : 9:07 am] CecilSunkure -- so when we say most studies are far from fact, it means they are far from an axiom[2016-11-10. : 9:07 am] CecilSunkure -- that's why black lives matter protestors run around thinking all cops are ganna kill them is a fact[2016-11-10. : 9:07 am] Sand Wraith -- TF-TF- shouted: i actually don't get why you linked that first one, it says judges punish juveniles of their own race the hardest cuz I was rushing to find a specific article from some time ago[2016-11-10. : 9:06 am] TF- -- i actually don't get why you linked that first one, it says judges punish juveniles of their own race the hardest[2016-11-10. : 9:05 am]  O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- CecilSunkureCecilSunkure shouted: unfortunately studies are far from facts CecilSunkureCecilSunkure shouted: Just in general, all studies, are far from facts so where do you get facts if no study is correct?[2016-11-10. : 9:05 am] Sand Wraith -- TF-TF- shouted: people just won't publish studies if they have the wrong conclusion lol CecilSunkureCecilSunkure shouted: Just in general, all studies, are far from facts I don't care. Read them yourself and then decide, otherwise you're just selectively ignoring the efforts others have put into it[2016-11-10. : 9:05 am] TF- -- CecilSunkureCecilSunkure shouted: TF- wrong. people publish studies mostly for money and the people who provide funding are not biased?[2016-11-10. : 9:04 am] TF- -- lying by omission is becoming more popular, it's the most safe way to lie[2016-11-10. : 9:04 am] CecilSunkure -- TF-TF- shouted: people just won't publish studies if they have the wrong conclusion lol wrong. people publish studies mostly for money[2016-11-10. : 9:04 am] TF- -- people just won't publish studies if they have the wrong conclusion lol[2016-11-10. : 9:02 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- LoveLessLoveLess shouted: Well no shit, if you score high on an IQ test, you would be treated to intellectual benefits LoveLessLoveLess shouted: If you are a 10, you will be treated with sex benefits ]I think he means like trends in someone more attractive might get a job over someone with more skills (I don't have any sources and may be misremembering, but it was something like that)[2016-11-10. : 9:02 am] Sand Wraith -- and because I've looked over the data of old studies myself and don't recall them and don't study this shit but I'm willing to build up trust that these studies are done relatively well that if I see similar studies in the future I might form an opinion that their experiments are generally correct[2016-11-10. : 9:02 am] CecilSunkure -- So it's really important to be super careful when the topic comes up and try to focus on facts[2016-11-10. : 9:01 am] CecilSunkure -- The major point is if a bunch of black people think all police are actively and systematically trying to kill them, then a lot of innocent people are ganna die[2016-11-10. : 9:01 am] Sand Wraith -- CecilSunkureCecilSunkure shouted: SW you're appealing to authority which is actually a logical fallacy you're right I am, since I'm too tired to look over everything I fucking linked you[2016-11-10. : 9:00 am] CecilSunkure -- SW you're appealing to authority which is actually a logical fallacy[2016-11-10. : 9:00 am] LoveLess -- Well no shit, if you score high on an IQ test, you would be treated to intellectual benefits[2016-11-10. : 8:59 am] TF- -- you should look into those studies that say sociology and psychology studies have a total shit replication rate[2016-11-10. : 8:59 am] CecilSunkure -- Sand WraithSand Wraith shouted: CecilSunkure So? I'm still focusing on CecilSunkureCecilSunkure shouted: Innocent people die when we spread around crap like that [2016-11-10. : 8:59 am] Sand Wraith -- The studies are literally affirming the claims of people from racial minorities that there exists racism.[2016-11-10. : 8:59 am] Sand Wraith -- CecilSunkureCecilSunkure shouted: Sand Wraith They can be actual studies, and still totally fuel violence So?[2016-11-10. : 8:58 am] Sand Wraith -- Btw there are also studies that provide evidence for appearance-based discrimination. Attractive-lookinng people are more attractive and more likely to receive a wide variety of little benefits over time.[2016-11-10. : 8:58 am] CecilSunkure -- Sand WraithSand Wraith shouted: CecilSunkure if you don't want to go into the actual studies then say so. They can be actual studies, and still totally fuel violence[2016-11-10. : 8:58 am] LoveLess -- Though definitely not to this extent people portray. If you are a cop, pull up a guy's record after pulling him over for swerving at midnight and the guy has two DUIs... What is your first thought? |
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