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[2016-11-14. : 6:35 am]  CecilSunkure -- If you want me to look at something, please give me exactly what you want[2016-11-14. : 6:35 am] CecilSunkure -- KrayZeeKrayZee shouted: I'm not going to put any more effort in this 'conversation'. OK but I'm genuinely asking why I should be upset, but you're not being specific[2016-11-14. : 6:34 am]  Lanthanide -- in NZ you're considered to be a native if you've got 1/32 blood lineage[2016-11-14. : 6:33 am] CecilSunkure -- And the idea that there are false claims makes me way angrier than Trump trying to defend my heritage's authenticity[2016-11-14. : 6:33 am] CecilSunkure -- Okay KrayZee, maybe there's a better example, but in this video Trump is saying people are falsely claiming to be Native[2016-11-14. : 6:32 am] Lanthanide -- FaRTy1billionFaRTy1billion shouted: KrayZee oh naive KrayZee, didn't you know that CO2 cools the earth, and we're actually experiencing a global cooling? Al Gore is lying to us to line his pockets with evil stupid lying money I think it was only about 18 months ago that Apoc was trying to convince me that all the scientists were in on a global conspiracy to increase grant funding by inventing climate change [2016-11-14. : 6:31 am] Lanthanide -- http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-blasts-media-for-reporting-things-he-says[2016-11-14. : 6:31 am]  O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- I found it https://anticorruptionsociety.com/anatomy-of-a-con-job/con-2-oil-is-not-a-fossil-fuel-it-is-renewable/[2016-11-14. : 6:30 am] CecilSunkure -- Alright he's talking about people that are falsely claiming to be Native here[2016-11-14. : 6:27 am] KrayZee -- Just google 'trump native american', that's it. You don't even need to write "racism"[2016-11-14. : 6:27 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- and I was like "it's so hard to find information, I bet I could find tons of information if I searched some crazy conspiracy stance, they research the hell out of goddamn everything"[2016-11-14. : 6:27 am] KrayZee -- The media isn't pulling any strings if it's coming to unedited videos of Trump literally saying these statements coming out from his own mouth.[2016-11-14. : 6:26 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- ... I read that in an article, which I have no idea how I found it or what website it wsa on[2016-11-14. : 6:25 am] KrayZee -- FaRTy1billionFaRTy1billion shouted: KrayZee oh naive KrayZee, didn't you know that CO2 cools the earth, and we're actually experiencing a global cooling? Al Gore is lying to us to line his pockets with evil stupid lying money LOL[2016-11-14. : 6:25 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- plus CO2 is literally what plants breathe, and then they produce oxygen, which we breathe. CO2 is good for everyone![2016-11-14. : 6:24 am] KrayZee -- Like how can you support a racist who doesn't like you because of your skin color and background?[2016-11-14. : 6:24 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- oil is produced deep in the earth, we're not running out of it, and it's healthy for the earth for us to extract it and burn it[2016-11-14. : 6:24 am] KrayZee -- For one thing, he's openly racist. Especially towards Native Americans.[2016-11-14. : 6:23 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- KrayZeeKrayZee shouted: CecilSunkure, Trump said global warming is a hoax created by the Chinese. Seriously? oh naive KrayZee, didn't you know that CO2 cools the earth, and we're actually experiencing a global cooling? Al Gore is lying to us to line his pockets with evil stupid lying money [2016-11-14. : 6:23 am] KrayZee -- You shouldn't confuse something with "media trying to make Trump look bad" to something "Trump actually DID say and actually did do"[2016-11-14. : 6:23 am] CecilSunkure -- Well I'm still interested in why I should be outraged as a Native American[2016-11-14. : 6:23 am] KrayZee -- That isn't "media telling me something", that's coming from his own mouth. Literally his own mouth.[2016-11-14. : 6:23 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- the only thing I heard was that he said global warming was a hoak[2016-11-14. : 6:22 am] KrayZee -- CecilSunkure, Trump said global warming is a hoax created by the Chinese. Seriously?[2016-11-14. : 6:22 am] CecilSunkure -- IIRC he does not believe in global warming, and does believe in general climate change (who wouldn't)[2016-11-14. : 6:22 am] CecilSunkure -- However a lot of media would collate the two different terms in a way to try and show he was lying/changing his mind[2016-11-14. : 6:21 am] CecilSunkure -- I did watch Trump say very different things about global arming and climate change[2016-11-14. : 6:21 am] Lanthanide -- global warming is what is happening, climate change is what you'll experience[2016-11-14. : 6:21 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- global warming means the global average temp is going up, except everyone's always liek HURR DURR IT SURE IS COLD, SO MUCH FOR GLOBAL WARMING (even though here we haven't had a proper winter in like 3 years)[2016-11-14. : 6:20 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- CecilSunkureCecilSunkure shouted: FaRTy1billion Climate change? Or global warming? There is a difference Climate change is an umbrella term[2016-11-14. : 6:20 am] CecilSunkure -- KrayZeeKrayZee shouted: I don't need to explain. If you can't find the explanation yourself, then there's no point of me trying to explain it to you. You'll be stubborn again. OK but I promise I will try my best not to be stubborn. I really wanted to hear. Nobody around my talks about Native Americans  [2016-11-14. : 6:20 am] KrayZee -- I don't need to explain. If you can't find the explanation yourself, then there's no point of me trying to explain it to you. You'll be stubborn again.[2016-11-14. : 6:20 am] CecilSunkure -- FaRTy1billionFaRTy1billion shouted: idk, the shit that scares me is people saying climate change isn't a thing, abiogenic oil is best oil, and we can literally do no harm to the earth Climate change? Or global warming? There is a difference[2016-11-14. : 6:19 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- also people wanting to repeal stuff like gay marriage is a huge step backwards ;o[2016-11-14. : 6:17 am] KrayZee -- Well CecilSunkure, are you of ethnic minority descent? Like as asian, latino, middle eastern, etc.?[2016-11-14. : 6:17 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- idk, the shit that scares me is people saying climate change isn't a thing, abiogenic oil is best oil, and we can literally do no harm to the earth[2016-11-14. : 6:15 am] CecilSunkure -- Most people don't think that critically or even acknowledge media as a source[2016-11-14. : 6:15 am] CecilSunkure -- And less scary, but still, is really strong emotional reactions like "He's offensive! I hate him!"[2016-11-14. : 6:14 am] CecilSunkure -- It's scary to me when people say very similar things to popular media, just because they haven't thought it totally through themselves[2016-11-14. : 6:12 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- I like to think my opinion centers around "don't be a dick and hopefully people won't be a dick back"[2016-11-14. : 6:11 am] CecilSunkure -- And maybe, just maybe, reflect on where his current point of view came from. Like, maybe it came from popular media.[2016-11-14. : 6:10 am] CecilSunkure -- Yeah but I'm trying to get KrayZee to recognize another point of view beside the one he currently holds[2016-11-14. : 6:09 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- CecilSunkureCecilSunkure shouted: To me it just sounds like Trump offended you KrayZee, and Hillary didn't didn't he offend like half the country?[2016-11-14. : 6:09 am] CecilSunkure -- To me it just sounds like Trump offended you KrayZee, and Hillary didn't |
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