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[2016-11-17. : 1:28 am]  jjf28 -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: jjf28 Then maybe it fuses with the other atoms you're crushing with it into a possibly superheavy element, which is fusion. but there's only one atom in this hypothetical![2016-11-17. : 1:28 am]  Moose -- Unless you're talking about literally just a single atom, but isolating a single atom for the duration of such an experiment might prove to be a bit difficult.[2016-11-17. : 1:28 am] zsnakezz -- pretty sure fusion is something that the universe itself only does rarely[2016-11-17. : 1:27 am] Moose -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: Mini Moose 2707 but it can't (spatially speaking) break apart in this hypothetical Then maybe it fuses with the other atoms you're crushing with it into a possibly superheavy element, which is fusion.[2016-11-17. : 1:26 am] zsnakezz -- if the sun isn't a black hole, that means that it's not creating the gravitational force, so without extreme amounts of momentum, we can not produce a consistent implosion[2016-11-17. : 1:26 am] jjf28 -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: jjf28 When it breaks into smaller particles, which is fission. but it can't (spatially speaking) break apart in this hypothetical [2016-11-17. : 1:25 am] Moose -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: cause how else would you decide when the atom is crushed? When it breaks into smaller particles, which is fission. [2016-11-17. : 1:23 am] jjf28 -- mm, what I'm saying is a sub-atmoic particle might be able to lose its regular structure/properties under these conditions, at which point we say zsnakezzzsnakezz shouted: i mean, idunno if anyone has literally crushed an atom crushing successful[2016-11-17. : 1:23 am] zsnakezz -- if you squeeze hard enough, without letting it separate, what would happen?[2016-11-17. : 1:22 am] zsnakezz -- unless the partacles you speak of contain some properties that surpass an extreme environment such as that[2016-11-17. : 1:21 am] zsnakezz -- im not talking about breaking it up, im talking about squishing it as hard as possible[2016-11-17. : 1:20 am] jjf28 -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Splitting an atom involves breaking one atom into two or more particles. What does it mean to crush an atom? perhaps squishing a proton or neutron till it loses its defining properties?[2016-11-17. : 1:20 am] zsnakezz -- well under the circumstances, the partacals themselves might be too constricted to go anywhere.[2016-11-17. : 1:18 am] zsnakezz -- you would need to basically recreate the gravitational psi of the middle of a star inside a very small environment[2016-11-17. : 1:18 am] Moose -- Splitting an atom involves breaking one atom into two or more particles. What does it mean to crush an atom?[2016-11-17. : 1:17 am] zsnakezz -- i expect if splitting an atom causes a massive explosion, that crushing it might do the exact opposite[2016-11-17. : 1:15 am] jjf28 -- wouldn't it always take more energy to cause implosions than any work you gain from it?[2016-11-17. : 1:14 am] zsnakezz -- if not something that would give the earth an insurance policy vs the sun[2016-11-17. : 1:12 am] zsnakezz -- i just think that finding a way to cause a consistent implosion without the release of radiation/explosiveness[2016-11-17. : 1:11 am] jjf28 -- I took a fair amount of chem, but never learned nuclear bindings beyond explody energy[2016-11-17. : 1:10 am] IskatuMesk -- you guys and your NUMBERS and EQUATIONS trying to dispute the one truth of butts[2016-11-17. : 1:07 am] jjf28 -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: Mini Moose 2707 maybe... a cursory look suggests the point of fusion is a net release of bonds Deuterium (N+P) + Tritium (2N + P) = Helium (2N + 2P) + Neutron (N) + Energy ... I don't know enough chemistry [2016-11-17. : 12:57 am] zsnakezz -- but saying an implosion isn't more efficient than having a super large mass of whatever substance you could find[2016-11-17. : 12:56 am] Moose -- Dem0nDem0n shouted: If only he did science instead of alcohol, rolling on the floor laughing   [2016-11-17. : 12:55 am] zsnakezz -- you could move the earth further away from the sun without needing a greater size of mass to do so[2016-11-17. : 12:54 am] zsnakezz -- anyway, basically what im getting at, is if you can create a super powerful controlled imposion[2016-11-17. : 12:54 am] zsnakezz -- idealistically, you wouldn't need a hadron colidor in the end to do the job.[2016-11-17. : 12:54 am] jjf28 -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: So... basically fusion? maybe... a cursory look suggests the point of fusion is a net release of bonds[2016-11-17. : 12:52 am] zsnakezz -- i find the methods they are currently using to make said black holes to be a little big for what might actually only take a small amount of space[2016-11-17. : 12:51 am] zsnakezz -- well im guessing the opposite of an explosion, releasing energy, is basically a black hole[2016-11-17. : 12:50 am] jjf28 -- zsnakezzzsnakezz shouted: but then what would be the point? how powerful of an implosion would it be really? would it swallow the chamber and be done with? I suppose if you somehow force the energy into forming a nuclear bond... but it's a ton of work to reverse entropy[2016-11-17. : 12:50 am] Moose -- I'm not sure on if exploding the outside of something to push it in is an implosion, though. I thought imploding was collapsing on itself?[2016-11-17. : 12:50 am] zsnakezz -- im saying, what if you could keep the implosion going, that part where things go in before they GO OUT[2016-11-17. : 12:49 am] Moose -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: aren't nukes literally set off with an implosion trigger? There's a few different methods. You do want to compress the fissile material, so carefully controlled explosions would help with that.[2016-11-17. : 12:48 am] zsnakezz -- but then what would be the point? how powerful of an implosion would it be really? would it swallow the chamber and be done with?[2016-11-17. : 12:47 am] zsnakezz -- i was thinking, perhaps squashing a super hyper active element inside a pressure chamber[2016-11-17. : 12:46 am] zsnakezz -- i was thinking, if you can create a nuclear explosion, by splitting atoms, what would it take to cause an implosion?[2016-11-17. : 12:45 am] jjf28 -- zsnakezzzsnakezz shouted: i mean that was 2 seconds away on google to be fair I was reading https://www.dol.gov/whd/overtime_pay.htm as you said zsnakezzzsnakezz shouted: uhhhhh 40? |
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