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[2017-2-09. : 5:11 am]
tehkain -- Such very wow
[2017-2-09. : 5:11 am]
tehkain -- Much plugins
[2017-2-09. : 5:10 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- I should find where that is
[2017-2-09. : 5:09 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- basically replace whatever lea thing,[stat_txt ptr + string*2] (I'm just guessing it looks like that), with a local call that checks if id < 250 or whatever, then use normal one else use the new one
[2017-2-09. : 5:07 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- try and stick it in the margins somewhere
[2017-2-09. : 5:07 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- it would just take more room in the ASM, but I could do some of that cramming I was talking about before xD
[2017-2-09. : 5:05 am]
tehkain -- FaRTy1billion
FaRTy1billion shouted: also I don't know if I copy over all units to units_txt.tbl (or whatever), or if I can add some logic where extended units refer to it
If you can, it'd be best for the latter. That way you wouldn't have to leave some unused junk in stat_txt.tbl to maintain the line length. Also, you could skip past the FireGraft 'units' used for buttons.
[2017-2-09. : 5:03 am]
tehkain -- Honestly, I prefer DatEdit to the SC2 editor...
[2017-2-09. : 5:03 am]
tehkain -- Of course, if we ever accomplish that, we'll be even closer to the functionality of SC2's editor.
[2017-2-09. : 5:03 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- also an even huger mess is figuring out how to edit the new resource requirements for units/techs/upgrades, since it's already quite a mess to even just add entries to the .dat files xD
[2017-2-09. : 5:02 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- also I don't know if I copy over all units to units_txt.tbl (or whatever), or if I can add some logic where extended units refer to it
[2017-2-09. : 5:02 am]
tehkain -- Probably.
[2017-2-09. : 5:02 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- but it will probably be a huge mess, having to find everywhere resources are used
[2017-2-09. : 5:01 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- probably not impossible ... I found all the stuff that has like mineral/gas checks for upgrades and techs
[2017-2-09. : 5:01 am]
tehkain -- In any case, once you finish with DatExtender, I think that we'll be able to start messing about with StarCraft: Origins.
[2017-2-09. : 5:01 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- probably not easy
[2017-2-09. : 5:01 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- oh.
[2017-2-09. : 5:00 am]
tehkain -- I mean like minerals. :P
[2017-2-09. : 5:00 am]
tehkain -- Erm
[2017-2-09. : 5:00 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- sure, I did it in isextend
[2017-2-09. : 5:00 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- I don't really want to push everything else in stat_txt down, because that will require a looot of fixing
[2017-2-09. : 5:00 am]
tehkain -- Is it possible to add new resources?
[2017-2-09. : 5:00 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- I haven't found where the names are broken yet
[2017-2-09. : 5:00 am]
tehkain -- Hmm...
[2017-2-09. : 5:00 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- no idea. XD
[2017-2-09. : 4:59 am]
tehkain -- Out of curiosity, how easy would/will it be to add a units_txt.tbl for names for new units?
[2017-2-09. : 4:59 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- oic
[2017-2-09. : 4:58 am]
tehkain -- My problem was that I failed to remember that FireGraft's files are contained in data.mpq.
[2017-2-09. : 4:56 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- so checking "Used" in a dat req tab in FG really just means it exists
[2017-2-09. : 4:56 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- datreqs are just in a list where it's just like "Here are the reqs for upgrade ID #whatever", and FireGraft will happily add those without issue
[2017-2-09. : 4:55 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- http://www.staredit.net/363956/ it doesn't need all the tfarCratS.exe garbage, because no upgrades.dat settings are hardcoded
[2017-2-09. : 4:53 am]
tehkain -- How do you edit FireGraft to work with altered, for example, upgrades.dat sizes?
[2017-2-09. : 4:53 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- If you add units to FG without tfarCratS.exe, it will show a bunch of garbage for the extended units and modifying one thing will change another somewhere else
[2017-2-09. : 4:53 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- it will still patch regular StarCraft.exe
[2017-2-09. : 4:53 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- FG just needs to load tfarCratS.exe, because it generates all the values and stuff it uses from the normal StarCraft.exe, but I changed some around
[2017-2-09. : 4:50 am]
tehkain -- So I have to use the modified FG, load tfarCratS.exe, and then make edits there and copy in the appropriate MPQ?
[2017-2-09. : 4:50 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- so I had to make starcraft.exe bigger and move the memory around
[2017-2-09. : 4:49 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- it needs to load tfarCratS, because I changed where SC keeps some memory and FG really doesn't like that
[2017-2-09. : 4:49 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- I also get an access violation error, but then it works normally anyway
[2017-2-09. : 4:48 am]
tehkain -- When I tried opening an SC exe, it said something about a problem with the 'tfarCratS' exe in its folder.
[2017-2-09. : 4:48 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- or at lease load tfarcrats.exe with FireGraft
[2017-2-09. : 4:48 am]
tehkain -- No. It throws some access violation error when I start it up.
[2017-2-09. : 4:48 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- tehkain
tehkain shouted: However, when I made ANOTHER mod, with only basic dat edits, FireGraft button changes also didn't work.
are you using the modified FG?
[2017-2-09. : 4:47 am]
tehkain -- It's not crashing.
[2017-2-09. : 4:47 am]
tehkain -- My mod?I
[2017-2-09. : 4:47 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- when is it crashing?
[2017-2-09. : 4:47 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- o then that should be fine
[2017-2-09. : 4:47 am]
tehkain -- I am actually not utilizing any new unit entries in the mod.
[2017-2-09. : 4:45 am]
tehkain -- FaRTy1billion
FaRTy1billion shouted: are you also extending unit\wirefram\*grp s?
Erm... no?
[2017-2-09. : 4:45 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- if I make that program that generates files for ease of use, that should be another thing it expands
[2017-2-09. : 4:44 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- are you also extending unit\wirefram\*grp s?
[2017-2-09. : 4:44 am]
tehkain -- (With, of course, extended dat files).
[2017-2-09. : 4:43 am]
tehkain -- However, when I made ANOTHER mod, with only basic dat edits, FireGraft button changes also didn't work.
[2017-2-09. : 4:43 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- https://i.snag.gy/Mq2foA.jpg worked fine for me ;o
[2017-2-09. : 4:43 am]
tehkain -- I was able to get your SC demo running.
[2017-2-09. : 4:43 am]
tehkain -- Hmm...
[2017-2-09. : 4:41 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- cool, I can run hawttiles again
[2017-2-09. : 4:35 am]
tehkain -- Actually, so did the FireGraft you included with it...
[2017-2-09. : 4:34 am]
tehkain -- FaRTy1billion
FaRTy1billion shouted: tehkain in the demo I uploaded you should be able to build and command extended units
If I recall correctly, the demo executable crashed when I tried to run it.
[2017-2-09. : 4:27 am]
lil-Inferno -- Mini Moose 2707
Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Fire_Kame tru
I have now geocoded your exact position based on the texture of your countertop O_O
[2017-2-09. : 4:14 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- though I still think it would be helpful to write a program that generates the FG and DatEdit stuff
[2017-2-09. : 4:13 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- I was probably just going to dump it in a thread, give a brief overview, and then leave it at that (much like I already did!)
[2017-2-09. : 4:13 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- tehkain
tehkain shouted: Anyway, in seriousness... :farty: Farty, when you finish DatExtender, mind if I write up a tutorial on how to set up everything for it? Hopefully by the time it's actually finished, I'll have figured out how to navigate it well enough to actually make something useful for the three modders still on SEN. :P
Corbo
Corbo shouted: But ok. I shall let you.
[2017-2-09. : 4:12 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- I guess I could like +20 or so diabetes, though
[2017-2-09. : 4:11 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- Fire_Kame
Fire_Kame shouted: where the fuck are my brownie cheesecake photos
also if I make it it will probably be this weekend. I haven't decided if I will, because we were also supposed to make malasadas and I'm not sure if (basically) donuts and cheesecake is a good idea in the same weekend :P
[2017-2-09. : 4:10 am]
Moose -- Fire_Kame
Fire_Kame shouted: what the hell is the point of the internet if not to look at other people's food
tru
[2017-2-09. : 4:10 am]
Moose -- Fire_Kame
Fire_Kame shouted: Mini Moose 2707 then where the fuck are they
Fire_Kame
Fire_Kame shouted: what the hell is the point of the internet if not to look at other people's food
mad AF :ranting: :curse: :uberflame: :mad: :flamer:
[2017-2-09. : 4:09 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- tehkain
tehkain shouted: By the way, Farty, have you done any other FireGraft edits when testing DatExt? That is, changing the button sets units use, adding buttons, etc.?
in the demo I uploaded you should be able to build and command extended units
[2017-2-09. : 4:08 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- jjf28
jjf28 shouted: FaRTy1billion and by that you mean browsing SEN =)
among other things
[2017-2-09. : 4:07 am]
Corbo -- But ok. I shall let you.

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