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[2017-2-21. : 11:53 pm]  NudeRaider -- AshamedAshamed shouted: How much bot registrations does this site still get daily? 3k last 2 years[2017-2-21. : 11:47 pm]  Ashamed -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: http://getipintel.net/ Thanks![2017-2-21. : 11:19 pm]  Moose -- There are 2455 accounts that were never active (ie never logged in after account creation)[2017-2-21. : 11:13 pm] Ashamed -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: There's also APIs you can run IP addresses and such against to determine if a registration is likely coming from a malicious place. Do you have an example of a company that does this?? I would be interesting in combining that with my new site![2017-2-21. : 11:12 pm] Moose -- There's also APIs you can run IP addresses and such against to determine if a registration is likely coming from a malicious place.[2017-2-21. : 11:12 pm] Ashamed -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Yeah, as bots get more sophisticated they can beat more sophisticated captchas. The one we have is some fake ass one from like 2005 probs LMAO You should be able to add googles quite easy... but like I said this would be a band aid for sure. Once bots figure out how to register the gaps would start occurring again.[2017-2-21. : 11:11 pm] Moose -- Yeah, as bots get more sophisticated they can beat more sophisticated captchas. The one we have is some fake ass one from like 2005 probs LMAO[2017-2-21. : 11:10 pm] Moose -- Honestly, I think real runtime savings would come from actually caching the Members Online that's on every page refreshing all the time instead of doing a big stupid join query LMAO[2017-2-21. : 11:10 pm] Ashamed -- If you can add an recapcha to registration to try to stop fake accounts to begin with - The script to recreate the users table wouldn't be terribly hard. The only issue is you wouldn't be fixing the root cause of the issue - and over time you may come across same shit.[2017-2-21. : 11:09 pm] Moose -- Schedule downtime ... write a script to remap all the user IDs ... XDDDDD[2017-2-21. : 11:08 pm] Moose -- AshamedAshamed shouted: Yeah I can see the issue - gaps in primary key because not everyone finishes the registration, causing queries to take longer,etc. Yeah, I'm not a huge database person so I don't know if that's a thing I even want to fuck with[2017-2-21. : 11:08 pm] Ashamed -- yeah im trying to think of the easiest way to fix this... unfortunately I dont think it would be easy at all ha.[2017-2-21. : 11:07 pm] Ashamed -- Yeah I can see the issue - gaps in primary key because not everyone finishes the registration, causing queries to take longer,etc.[2017-2-21. : 11:05 pm] Moose -- AshamedAshamed shouted: He could of created a separate table for these users though. Exactly.[2017-2-21. : 11:03 pm] Ashamed -- yeah which alot of sites still let people do - They just don't let them post or do other permission related task until they verify.[2017-2-21. : 11:03 pm] Moose -- No, they're just users who signed up and never validated their accounts. Or more likely, bots that filled it out and never completed their email address registration because they weren't sufficiently sophisticated LMAO[2017-2-21. : 11:02 pm] Moose -- What I mean is they're put into the table before they click the account validation link in the email they get to complete the registration after the form.[2017-2-21. : 11:02 pm] Ashamed -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Because Devourer added them to the users table straight away instead of doing validation first. This makes it sound like Devourer added a bunch of test users via the database and not the validation of the form.... perhaps I misunderstood you.[2017-2-21. : 11:00 pm] Moose -- Nobody is added via the database. They're added when they complete the registration form. Which adds them to the database.[2017-2-21. : 10:59 pm] Ashamed -- I dont understand the reason to add users via the database then after the site was live...[2017-2-21. : 10:59 pm] Dem0n -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Because Devourer added them to the users table straight away instead of doing validation first. smh imo[2017-2-21. : 10:58 pm] Moose -- It was started from scratch. Doesn't mean development was complete. Or even designed well. LMAO[2017-2-21. : 10:58 pm] Ashamed -- You also might be able to create a good script that rebuilds the database and primary key - leaving this info out when you do so.[2017-2-21. : 10:57 pm] Ashamed -- My current site Im at like ID 500 already... Will I keep it this way.. No. Once the site is built and ready to go live. I will purge the database lol.[2017-2-21. : 10:56 pm] Ashamed -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: At this point I don't even know if removing them would be a good idea because it would create gaps in the id field, which is the primary key. Why wasn't the database started from scratch after development ha![2017-2-21. : 10:54 pm] Moose -- At this point I don't even know if removing them would be a good idea because it would create gaps in the id field, which is the primary key.[2017-2-21. : 10:53 pm] Moose -- Because Devourer added them to the users table straight away instead of doing validation first.[2017-2-21. : 10:49 pm] Moose -- I guess we could add a forgot username that emails the address on record.[2017-2-21. : 10:20 pm] Moose -- Dem0nDem0n shouted: Which, by the way, a lot of people do anyways because they don't remember their old passwords Password recovery has been working for quite some time now.[2017-2-21. : 9:34 pm] Ashamed -- Sie_SayokaSie_Sayoka shouted: path of exile I like certain aspects of that game - but I really dont like the hardcore that much ha.. Too much experimenting is required in softcore first >< - I also tend to not get along with some of the community ha. [2017-2-21. : 6:35 pm] Ashamed -- d3 has gotten pretty easy.. I was able to solo hardcore a character this weekend without even getting close to dying ha[2017-2-21. : 5:29 pm] CecilSunkure -- ZoanZoan shouted: I got into freaking Agar.io more than I did SC2 lolol same[2017-2-21. : 4:44 pm] Zoan -- Lol, I left some notes on stuff for me to work on today. "Find a solution with decreasing energy and express your confusion." Thanks, me[2017-2-21. : 4:41 pm] IskatuMesk -- You have no idea how bad it is until you walk into the Galaxy and AI side of it.[2017-2-21. : 4:41 pm] IskatuMesk -- Sc2 is literally a cobbled together mess of stripped down middleware and old alpha code from dead projects[2017-2-21. : 4:40 pm] IskatuMesk -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: and overall is was a lot more complex Complexity is not the right word. A tool can be complex and """accessible""" (I really hate that word because it gives the incorrect idea). It's called User Interface Design, something Blizzard has never even attempted to employ.,[2017-2-21. : 4:39 pm] IskatuMesk -- ZoanZoan shouted: I could never get into SC2 the way I did Broodwar. Probably because it just felt like there was no community for SC2. It's not you "feeling" that way, that's just literally the case. There is no community, there's just a few people that make shitty dota and castlefight clones and like 2-3 people who do serious work and avoid mapster like cancer.[2017-2-21. : 4:24 pm] Dem0n -- Tbh the focal point of our site SC-wise should be the wiki. It has a lot of good info but its practically hidden away and hardly anyone uses it.[2017-2-21. : 4:11 pm] NudeRaider -- ZoanZoan shouted: I could never get into SC2 the way I did Broodwar. Probably because it just felt like there was no community for SC2. can't speak for you obviously but most people didn't get into it because it wasn't as accessible.[2017-2-21. : 4:09 pm] Zycorax -- ZoanZoan shouted: I could never get into SC2 the way I did Broodwar. Probably because it just felt like there was no community for SC2. The lack of national chat channels was a big disappointment for me. I really enjoyed the random banter in "Brood War NOR-1" back in the day  [2017-2-21. : 3:59 pm] Zoan -- I could never get into SC2 the way I did Broodwar. Probably because it just felt like there was no community for SC2. |
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