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Self-Powering cannons
Nov 22 2009, 7:49 pm
By: Basteille  

Nov 22 2009, 7:49 pm Basteille Post #1



I've heard of a trigger that allows some protoss buildings to be powered without a pylon, such as a cannon. Is this possible? I've heard that it only works on smaller maps... Thanks if you take up this task to help me.



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Nov 22 2009, 7:52 pm stickynote Post #2



I think you have to create and remove the pylon rapidly?



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Nov 22 2009, 7:53 pm Falkoner Post #3



If you use the Enable Doodad State action on them they become powered, this is the same for all protoss buildings, but whenever a new unit is created, either by triggers or by building, and some other factors also do this I think, the cannon will become disabled again until you enable it once more.



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Nov 22 2009, 7:57 pm JaFF Post #4



Quote from Falkoner
If you use the Enable Doodad State action on them they become powered, this is the same for all protoss buildings, but whenever a new unit is created, either by triggers or by building, and some other factors also do this I think, the cannon will become disabled again until you enable it once more.
Created or killed, I think.



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Nov 23 2009, 7:39 am UnholyUrine Post #5



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If you use the Enable Doodad State action on them they become powered, this is the same for all protoss buildings, but whenever a new unit is created, either by triggers or by building, and some other factors also do this I think, the cannon will become disabled again until you enable it once more.

You can also force them to be active by preserving the trigger for enabling their state plus hyper triggers...
You'll still see times in which the cannon spas's out... but it works for the most part.



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Nov 23 2009, 6:21 pm Wormer Post #6



Just for completeness.
It is sad but once the building which is upgrading something got disabled, the upgrade won't continue after enabling.
As far as I remember training men works fine though.



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Nov 26 2009, 6:24 am Basteille Post #7



I still don't know how to do it, I used center locations on units then enable doodad state as well as doing an overall doodad enable trigger. The cannons don't work, but the gateways do... Sort of.



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Nov 26 2009, 6:29 am Falkoner Post #8



You can only enable one at a time, but if you give it away then it gets disabled once again, so in order to make it work you must place burrowed units under each cannon, and center on each burrowed unit, enable the cannon there, then give the burrowed unit away and center on the next one.



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