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"Unknown" doodad state for X at X?

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Jan 3 2009, 9:02 pm
By: Grand_dracolich

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Jan 3 2009, 9:02 pm Grand_dracolich Post #1

In the standard Starcraft campaign maps, I never see toggle, enable or disable when it comes to Set Doodad State actions. Instead, I see "unknown" when I open such maps with SCMDraft.

Just asking, does anyone know what unknown does? There's a small problem with some of the doors and traps, so if I know what unknown does, I could probably fix it.

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Jan 3 2009, 9:06 pm

Biophysicist Post #2

It's probably just a quirk with the special editor Blizzard used (They used a special editor, not StarEdit) that SC understands but SCMDraft and stuff don't. Try just changing it to Disable and see what happens. (Save a backup file first!!!)

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Jan 3 2009, 9:21 pm

O)FaRTy1billion[MM] Post #3

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Jan 3 2009, 9:26 pm

Ahli Post #4

I do stuff and thingies... Try widening and reducing the number of small nooks and crannies to correct the problem.

terran04 for example (if I remember right)

Jan 3 2009, 9:33 pm

Biophysicist Post #5

That's the Jacobs Installation, right? Yes, that one has Unknown Doodad State. So does that one where you have to rescue Zeratul and start with Tassadar and two Zealots. Basically, any campaign installation map.

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Jan 3 2009, 9:41 pm

O)FaRTy1billion[MM] Post #6

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Uh. They use Toggle as far as I can see.

Jan 3 2009, 9:59 pm Grand_dracolich Post #7

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O)FaRTy1billion[MM]

Uh. They use Toggle as far as I can see.

Okay, that's probably the problem.

If a trigger (bring unit to location, enable doodad) is for force 1, and force 1 has two players in it, would it activate twice, once for each player?

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Jan 3 2009, 10:00 pm

O)FaRTy1billion[MM] Post #8

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I opened it in SCMDraft and it correctly said Toggle.

Jan 4 2009, 1:26 pm

NudeRaider Post #9

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Quote from Grand_dracolich

If a trigger (bring unit to location, enable doodad) is for force 1, and force 1 has two players in it, would it activate twice, once for each player?

Yes. That's why you usually explicitly use disable or enable, to avoid glitches.

Jan 4 2009, 2:58 pm Grand_dracolich Post #10

Alright, thanks! The 2-player conversions of Terran 4, Zerg 5 and Protoss 6 are now bug free.

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