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Question about Sand Castle Wars
Jun 12 2008, 1:49 am
By: Kidz.Gone.Wild  

Jun 12 2008, 1:49 am Kidz.Gone.Wild Post #1



'Set Mission Objectives' is scattered all over redundantly and mixed in with totally unrelated triggers in all the versions of SCW I have.
Wondering if they serve some special purpose for the function of the map?
Or is it just a way to help keep original creator credits included since SCW seems to be an open to public project?



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Jun 12 2008, 1:52 am Brontobyte Post #2



Quote from Kidz.Gone.Wild
'Set Mission Objectives' is scattered all over redundantly and mixed in with totally unrelated triggers in all the versions of SCW I have.
Wondering if they serve some special purpose for the function of the map?
Or is it just a way to help keep original creator credits included since SCW seems to be an open to public project?

It seems to me that the map might have different Mission Objectives for a sort of "directions" on what to do at a given time in the game. Are they all the same?



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Jun 12 2008, 2:03 am Kidz.Gone.Wild Post #3



They are all the same. It's not an rpg or campaign. There's no logical reason for it other than maker credit as far as I can tell. But there are always some new quirk or trick I don't know about, and that map is tricky in it's functions. I know Nuderaider worked on fate6 & Dark2 versions of SCW so hoping he might shed some light on this.



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Jun 13 2008, 9:33 pm NudeRaider Post #4

We can't explain the universe, just describe it; and we don't know whether our theories are true, we just know they're not wrong. >Harald Lesch

I also don't KNOW why LegacyWeapon spread these Mission Objectives across multiple triggers but I suppose he wanted to keep the credits in. I just didn't care and changed the string directly in ScmDraft 2.

Btw. I didn't make those ridicilous L6 versions (x10 heros, stacked money ccs).
I made the L5 series (many versions, steadily improving)
and some day I wanted something new and made the DARK series (then DARKČ) now I've released the DARKČ v1.2 beta. where you can create multispawns (create 1 spawn which spawns 5 or 10 units).




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DarkenedFantasies -- Probably just didn't care. For example, at some point before release, they've updated the graphics of some of the Protoss buildings (Forge, CyberCore, Citadel, Observatory, Arbiter Tribunal), but instead of properly re-rendering them with edited 3D models, they did crappy copy-paste jobs on the rendered graphics.
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Ultraviolet -- :wob:
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Symmetry -- :wob:
[2026-6-21. : 4:56 am]
Ultraviolet -- I suppose we'll likely never know, but my guess would be that they already saw it operating successfully and there was no monetary incentive to finish the original work. And the dev cycle in old school Blizzard was so hectic, it's possible it just got forgotten about after the original game got released. Plus there's an element of existing MPQ files that were packaged with the original discs becoming outdated if they updated it. And it's not like they remade the original MPQs, they just made new ones for BW specifically
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Oh_Man -- so that makes me think maybe the theory they are unfinished is not true and its a deliberate design decision, coz why not finish them wen ur making brood war?
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Oh_Man -- the thing is thos buildings are from classic. that means they went ahead and made brood war without ever finishing the 'unfinished' buildings
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Ultraviolet -- Yeah he's talked about a lot of that stuff in his casts before. It seems plausible. Especially knowing how Blizzard of yesteryear operated.
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NudeRaider -- to clarify: couldn't recall the behavior for every single Protoss building but I was aware the disparity exists.
[2026-6-20. : 3:43 pm]
NudeRaider -- Contained nothing new for me. Didn't know all building's behavior, but very much all unit's. Also Terran balance whine - also nothing new :lol:
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Oh_Man -- makes me wonder if SEN knows anything about the topic
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