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Pathfinding when dealing with Building Sprites
Sep 16 2023, 4:16 am
By: dabman  

Sep 16 2023, 4:16 am dabman Post #1



Hello all,

(Although my map is an online melee map, I think the same issue will likely apply with UMS maps as well and I think you guys are the experts on how to deal with this, so what you know can apply to this question! Thanks for your time!)

I have created a multiplayer map in which there is an open middle area, and destroyable building shortcuts between enemy bases. I have uploaded the picture and included a link to it as well:

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The problem I am having with this setup is that units by default try and go through the buildings, which disrupts scouting and early fighting until the buildings inevitably get destroyed. (if it matters - I use some sort of building sprite so that the building exists in a melee game).

My question is simply whether there are any tricks to get the pathfinding to work early game so units go around in the middle. I don't even care so much if units switch pathfinding to the faster route later when a building is destroyed. I've searched around a lot for this question and I'm afraid the answer I've been seeing is there is no fix.

Appreciate any responses, thank you all!

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Sep 16 2023, 10:58 am Nekron Post #2



Units (ai units especially) dont see buildings or other units when planning a path




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NudeRaider -- blessed innocent soul knows nothing of the strife we had before EUDs were discovered :teehee:
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DarkenedFantasies -- Probably just didn't care. For example, at some point before release, they've updated the graphics of some of the Protoss buildings (Forge, CyberCore, Citadel, Observatory, Arbiter Tribunal), but instead of properly re-rendering them with edited 3D models, they did crappy copy-paste jobs on the rendered graphics.
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Ultraviolet -- :wob:
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Symmetry -- :wob:
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Ultraviolet -- I suppose we'll likely never know, but my guess would be that they already saw it operating successfully and there was no monetary incentive to finish the original work. And the dev cycle in old school Blizzard was so hectic, it's possible it just got forgotten about after the original game got released. Plus there's an element of existing MPQ files that were packaged with the original discs becoming outdated if they updated it. And it's not like they remade the original MPQs, they just made new ones for BW specifically
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Ultraviolet -- Yeah he's talked about a lot of that stuff in his casts before. It seems plausible. Especially knowing how Blizzard of yesteryear operated.
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NudeRaider -- to clarify: couldn't recall the behavior for every single Protoss building but I was aware the disparity exists.
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