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tbl editing
Jan 5 2017, 9:24 pm
By: Zoko-TkZ  

Jan 5 2017, 9:24 pm Zoko-TkZ Post #1



I am attempting an edit to images.tbl, for the purpose of adding a new .grp file to the list. I've tried to open it with several .tbl editors but all of them have an issue opening it, as well as any other .tbl file from Starcraft, throwing an error saying that the file is corrupt.

Haven't seen too many details around on how to edit those, but reading some people's posts it seems like there's a pretty simple way of doing so, I feel like I'm just missing a small detail here.



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Jan 5 2017, 9:44 pm DirectShift Post #2



Have you tried TblPad?



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Jan 5 2017, 10:10 pm Corbo Post #3

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images.tbl is not something you can edit via tblpad or tbl editor as such.

You want to add a new image to the images table in the iscript, I guess.

While I don't think you can add new entries with any iscript editor out there I believe this is what Farty was doing, an image expander so you could add new entries.



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Jan 5 2017, 10:47 pm O)FaRTy1billion[MM] Post #4

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What TBL editor are you using? I can open images.tbl just fine in TBLPad.

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images.tbl is not something you can edit via tblpad or tbl editor as such.
You can edit the tbls just fine to add more images, just not (normally) to dat files.



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Jan 5 2017, 10:49 pm Zoko-TkZ Post #5



@DirectShift, thank you this actually worked! For whatever reason the other 3 .tbl editors I tried (all downloaded from SC modding sites, all more recent than TBLpad) had the same issue.

@Corbo, I feared as such myself but as it turns out you can actually edit images.tbl with TBLpad. What I'm doing is adding a new .grp to my .mpq and using DatEdit to assign it to an image in images.dat, a new entry in images.tbl simply allows me to specify the new .grp to images.dat. While I have been working with Farty's .dat extender, no new entries in either images.dat or iscript are needed for this (because I am overwriting an unused image and iscript entry).



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