Which triggers are used and in what manner?
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Which triggers are used and in what manner?
Which triggers are used and in what manner?
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I don't think there's a really effective way to do it other than keeping the Cerebrate invulnerable until a Dark Templar comes near it (put a location over the Cerebrate that's just a little bigger than it), at which point it becomes vulnerable.
Indeed.
I was thinking that Blizzard managed it by using "Killed by" and "Unit is at location" triggers with "if it's not there, reincarnate it" switches. But then I remembered that one time I had a dt and a scout firing on them both and the scout got the last shot, and it respawned. Could blizzard have used hidden triggers on the "kill the cerebrates but only with dt" missions or something?
As well, if you recall the Terran Brood war campaign and the Enslavers II campaign, they pulled Arbiter Recalls with scripts. I looked at them and I saw they used "AI Nuke Here". Everytime I try to do it though, nothing happens.
Got any tips on how to deal with it?
I was thinking that Blizzard managed it by using "Killed by" and "Unit is at location" triggers with "if it's not there, reincarnate it" switches. But then I remembered that one time I had a dt and a scout firing on them both and the scout got the last shot, and it respawned. Could blizzard have used hidden triggers on the "kill the cerebrates but only with dt" missions or something?
As well, if you recall the Terran Brood war campaign and the Enslavers II campaign, they pulled Arbiter Recalls with scripts. I looked at them and I saw they used "AI Nuke Here". Everytime I try to do it though, nothing happens.
Got any tips on how to deal with it?
None.
For the AI nuke here, I know you need a computer Nuclear Silo, and a ghost, with a location centered over the place you want to nuke.
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http://www.staredit.net/starcraft/Nuclear_Missile#Automatically_training_and_launching_a_Nuclear_Missile
Check the bottom of that page to see how to build a nuke for the player. From there, I think you can use the "Nuke Here" script to nuke at a location.
Check the bottom of that page to see how to build a nuke for the player. From there, I think you can use the "Nuke Here" script to nuke at a location.
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Quote from SCRuler
Indeed.
I was thinking that Blizzard managed it by using "Killed by" and "Unit is at location" triggers with "if it's not there, reincarnate it" switches. But then I remembered that one time I had a dt and a scout firing on them both and the scout got the last shot, and it respawned. Could blizzard have used hidden triggers on the "kill the cerebrates but only with dt" missions or something?
I was thinking that Blizzard managed it by using "Killed by" and "Unit is at location" triggers with "if it's not there, reincarnate it" switches. But then I remembered that one time I had a dt and a scout firing on them both and the scout got the last shot, and it respawned. Could blizzard have used hidden triggers on the "kill the cerebrates but only with dt" missions or something?
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Trigger("Player 8"){
Conditions:
Bring("Current Player", "Zeratul (Dark Templar)", "Baelrog Cerebrate", At least, 1);
Bring("Zerg Swarm", "Zerg Cerebrate", "Baelrog Cerebrate", At most, 0);
Actions:
; Wait(1000);
Set Switch("Switch1", set);
; Kill Unit At Location("All players", "Zerg Cerebrate", All, "Baelrog Cerebrate");
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------//
Trigger("Player 8"){
Conditions:
Bring("Current Player", "Zeratul (Dark Templar)", "Leviathan cerebrate", At least, 1);
Bring("Zerg Swarm", "Zerg Cerebrate", "Leviathan cerebrate", At most, 0);
Actions:
; Wait(1000);
Set Switch("Switch2", set);
; Kill Unit At Location("All players", "Zerg Cerebrate", All, "Leviathan cerebrate");
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------//
Trigger("Player 8"){
Conditions:
Switch("Switch1", not set);
Bring("Zerg Swarm", "Zerg Cerebrate", "Baelrog Cerebrate", At most, 0);
Actions:
Kill Unit At Location("Player 8", "Buildings", All, "Baelrog Cerebrate");
Kill Unit At Location("Player 7", "Any unit", All, "Baelrog Cerebrate");
Move Unit("Player 8", "Men", All, "leviathan backoff 2", "baelrog outta the way 2");
Move Unit("Player 8", "Men", All, "Baelrog back off!", "outta the way - baelrog");
Create Unit with Properties("Zerg Swarm", "Zerg Cerebrate", 0, "Baelrog Cerebrate", 0);
Preserve Trigger();
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------//
Trigger("Player 8"){
Conditions:
Switch("Switch2", not set);
Bring("Zerg Swarm", "Zerg Cerebrate", "Leviathan cerebrate", At most, 0);
Actions:
Kill Unit At Location("Player 8", "Buildings", All, "Leviathan cerebrate");
Kill Unit At Location("Player 6", "Any unit", All, "Leviathan cerebrate");
Move Unit("Player 8", "Men", All, "leviathan back off!", "outta the way- leviathan");
Move Unit("Player 8", "Men", All, "leviathan backoff 2", "leviathan outta the way 2");
Create Unit with Properties("Zerg Swarm", "Zerg Cerebrate", 0, "Leviathan cerebrate", 0);
Preserve Trigger();
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------//
Trigger("Fleet of the Executor"){
Conditions:
Switch("Switch1", set);
Switch("Switch2", set);
Actions:
Victory();
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------//
Conditions:
Bring("Current Player", "Zeratul (Dark Templar)", "Baelrog Cerebrate", At least, 1);
Bring("Zerg Swarm", "Zerg Cerebrate", "Baelrog Cerebrate", At most, 0);
Actions:
; Wait(1000);
Set Switch("Switch1", set);
; Kill Unit At Location("All players", "Zerg Cerebrate", All, "Baelrog Cerebrate");
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------//
Trigger("Player 8"){
Conditions:
Bring("Current Player", "Zeratul (Dark Templar)", "Leviathan cerebrate", At least, 1);
Bring("Zerg Swarm", "Zerg Cerebrate", "Leviathan cerebrate", At most, 0);
Actions:
; Wait(1000);
Set Switch("Switch2", set);
; Kill Unit At Location("All players", "Zerg Cerebrate", All, "Leviathan cerebrate");
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------//
Trigger("Player 8"){
Conditions:
Switch("Switch1", not set);
Bring("Zerg Swarm", "Zerg Cerebrate", "Baelrog Cerebrate", At most, 0);
Actions:
Kill Unit At Location("Player 8", "Buildings", All, "Baelrog Cerebrate");
Kill Unit At Location("Player 7", "Any unit", All, "Baelrog Cerebrate");
Move Unit("Player 8", "Men", All, "leviathan backoff 2", "baelrog outta the way 2");
Move Unit("Player 8", "Men", All, "Baelrog back off!", "outta the way - baelrog");
Create Unit with Properties("Zerg Swarm", "Zerg Cerebrate", 0, "Baelrog Cerebrate", 0);
Preserve Trigger();
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------//
Trigger("Player 8"){
Conditions:
Switch("Switch2", not set);
Bring("Zerg Swarm", "Zerg Cerebrate", "Leviathan cerebrate", At most, 0);
Actions:
Kill Unit At Location("Player 8", "Buildings", All, "Leviathan cerebrate");
Kill Unit At Location("Player 6", "Any unit", All, "Leviathan cerebrate");
Move Unit("Player 8", "Men", All, "leviathan back off!", "outta the way- leviathan");
Move Unit("Player 8", "Men", All, "leviathan backoff 2", "leviathan outta the way 2");
Create Unit with Properties("Zerg Swarm", "Zerg Cerebrate", 0, "Leviathan cerebrate", 0);
Preserve Trigger();
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------//
Trigger("Fleet of the Executor"){
Conditions:
Switch("Switch1", set);
Switch("Switch2", set);
Actions:
Victory();
}
//-----------------------------------------------------------------//
There are much better and efficient ways to do this with modern mapping knowledge, but that was how it was done back in the original campaign.
None.
Quote from SCRuler
Indeed.
As well, if you recall the Terran Brood war campaign and the Enslavers II campaign, they pulled Arbiter Recalls with scripts. I looked at them and I saw they used "AI Nuke Here". Everytime I try to do it though, nothing happens.
Got any tips on how to deal with it?
As well, if you recall the Terran Brood war campaign and the Enslavers II campaign, they pulled Arbiter Recalls with scripts. I looked at them and I saw they used "AI Nuke Here". Everytime I try to do it though, nothing happens.
Got any tips on how to deal with it?
If you were looking to see how they casted Arbiter Recalls, it was not the script "AI Nuke Here".
To cast an arbiter recall, run the AI script "Cast Recall (Arbiter Required)" at Location <Where you want the recall to be>
(Not an available script in the basic editor, you need a third-party editor)
Make sure the trigger is owned by the computer player that will be recalling, and make sure that the computer running the trigger has at least one arbiter on the map, with enough energy, and with the recall ability researched for that player.
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Also, make sure that player has Recall researched and the Arbiter has enough energy to cast it.
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