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Sep 2 2007, 5:11 am
By: Protogod  

Sep 2 2007, 5:11 am Protogod Post #1



Hey dudes. Good to see this place is alive again, n' I gots a present for you.

This is a map I'd been working on, and I'm finally getting back to finishing it up. I've gotten to v1.5 so far, but there are still a couple things to smooth over. Either way, welcome me to SEN.

A couple of you might recognize me from Warboards.org and Starcraft.org. I know I at least recognize devilisk.


Here ya go


Edit; Fock, wrong section. :><: Could you please move this into the Melee Mapping Section?

Post has been edited 3 time(s), last time on Sep 2 2007, 5:16 am by Protogod.



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Sep 2 2007, 3:09 pm Valug Post #2



We kinda lack mods atm to move this, also, when posting melee maps its best to just post a picture. No one wants to open their editor/starcraft to check out a melee map.



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Sep 16 2007, 12:33 am Fisty Post #3



>>agreed



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Sep 16 2007, 11:47 pm Protogod Post #4



Re-located- Thx mods.



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Sep 17 2007, 3:50 am TitanWing Post #5



You can attach files to posts now.



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Sep 17 2007, 6:04 pm Fisty Post #6



The community also appreciates a pic on the topic.



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Sep 17 2007, 8:36 pm Protogod Post #7



Quote from Deathman101
The community also appreciates a pic on the topic.
Heard that one already. Say something helpful or dont talk.



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Sep 21 2007, 2:46 pm yenku Post #8



Put a picture up then. This is useless to people without SC installed.



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Sep 22 2007, 1:38 am TitanWing Post #9



Wow...SEN is just a melee mapper's paradise. -_-



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Sep 22 2007, 4:08 pm Protogod Post #10



Quote from yenku
Put a picture up then. This is useless to people without SC installed.


Call me crazy, but if you don't even have SC, I don't think I'm really all that desperate for your advice.



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Sep 27 2007, 2:28 pm Heegu Post #11



Quote from Protogod
Call me crazy, but if you don't even have SC, I don't think I'm really all that desperate for your advice.

You know somebody could look at it from a computer that doesen't have sc installed (at school etc.) Also, some people just like to visit the forum although they don't have sc anymore/currently installed. (and they could give you advice on how to balance the map even if they don't play it) Also did Yenku say that HE doesen't have it installed?



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Sep 27 2007, 2:38 pm TitanWing Post #12



Proto, if I happened to be at a school computer (which I am right now, in fact), I could not give you any advice because I can't see it. Does that mean that my opinions do not matter and are not needed/wanted?

Of course, I can always post when I get home, but there are some who may not have a computer at home or have problems with it.

IP fixed uploads, so you can attach to the post now, adding both the map and pic. ;)



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Sep 27 2007, 4:48 pm Chef Post #13



Quote
Wow...SEN is just a melee mapper's paradise. -_-
Same could be said about just about any website at the moment ;P There really isn't a good environment for melee mappers right now, and there isn't going to be until people start actually playing these maps. It just isn't happening right now, all there is, is heaping amounts of theory craft (that's often flatly contradicted by the simplest of observable facts if you still play this game). I think a successful melee mapping community is going to need to start on b.net, that way you guarantee everyone already plays each other and is on at the same times.



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Sep 27 2007, 10:10 pm Protogod Post #14



Quote from Chef
Quote
Wow...SEN is just a melee mapper's paradise. -_-
Same could be said about just about any website at the moment ;P There really isn't a good environment for melee mappers right now, and there isn't going to be until people start actually playing these maps. It just isn't happening right now, all there is, is heaping amounts of theory craft (that's often flatly contradicted by the simplest of observable facts if you still play this game). I think a successful melee mapping community is going to need to start on b.net, that way you guarantee everyone already plays each other and is on at the same times.

I'm gonna agree with you on that last part.

It's hard being a mapper when you know that no one is actualyl going to play your maps like they do with alot of the korean maps, which get accepted as WGT maps and such.

On the flipside, it takes alot of dedication to continue mapping through that kind of environment, and it means that established mappers are that much more dedicated to making a good map.



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Sep 28 2007, 1:29 am yenku Post #15



PIC PLEASE.
And please respond when people ask something of you.



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Sep 28 2007, 3:26 am Protogod Post #16



Quote from yenku
PIC PLEASE.
And please respond when people ask something of you.


Quote from Protogod
Quote from yenku
Put a picture up then. This is useless to people without SC installed.

Call me crazy, but if you don't even have SC, I don't think I'm really all that desperate for your advice.


See, I did respond.



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Sep 28 2007, 12:31 pm Symmetry Post #17

Dungeon Master

You responded like a giant douchebag, though. Yenku is probably a better melee-mapper than you are. Don't make stupid assumptions.



:voy: :jaff: :voy: :jaff:

Sep 28 2007, 10:49 pm TitanWing Post #18



While you make an assumption in the same post? I've never seen a map by Yenku before.

But he has a point, Proto. Post the fucking pic so they'll shut up?



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Sep 29 2007, 3:06 am Demented Shaman Post #19



You're all dumbasses.

Here's a damn picture.



Now shut up and make this an actual topic, even though I already know what the replies will be like after people see the image.



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Sep 29 2007, 3:07 am TitanWing Post #20



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NudeRaider -- Oh_Man
Oh_Man shouted: NudeRaider yeh thts straight up cheating
the mutas yes, the wraiths probably not. Have you even watched the video? ;)
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Oh_Man -- NudeRaider
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yeh thts straight up cheating
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