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Terran buildings not at full health
Jul 6 2012, 5:39 pm
By: Spatharas  

Jul 6 2012, 5:39 pm Spatharas Post #1



Does anyone know whats causing this?

Im currently using DatEdit 1.5d and Firegraft 1.16.1.

To be specific, the building finishes building normally, and doesnt look damaged, but when an SCV repairs it the appearance updates (so if it would normally be burning at that damage level it starts once I start repairing it) The missile turrets, which have very low hp, automatically burn down the instant the SCV trys to build it.

I also attached a file of the mod if it helps

Attachments:
Mod (unfinished).exe
Hits: 2 Size: 266.99kb



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Jul 6 2012, 6:24 pm Biophysicist Post #2



Normally, I'd say that your build times are too short, but that doesn't appear to be the case here. This is quite odd indeed! What did you edit, exactly?



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Jul 6 2012, 6:47 pm Spatharas Post #3



Nearly everything that can be done with datedit and firegraft : P. Hp, armour, I even tried to get infested duran, now an scv, to be able to build terran buildings (with no success) so alot of data related to building terran buildings is edited. Do you think it has to do with my attempts to give other units the ability to build buildings, or me giving the infested scv the ability to repair things that an scv can repair?



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Jul 6 2012, 10:20 pm Lanthanide Post #4



This is a good place to start:

http://www.staredit.net/?p=oldwiki&s=137

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Building units follows the same formula, and this explains why some buildings/units come out injured, except they start out with 10% of the base HP, plus 1 frame of "repairing", plus the time it takes to build. In the case of the terran barracks, it will build in 1 frame and come out with .1 * 9999 + 10010/256 + 10010/256 = 1078.1 HP.




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Jul 6 2012, 10:31 pm Spatharas Post #5



So I need to increase build time?



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Jul 7 2012, 4:24 pm Spatharas Post #6



I tried increasing build times but it didnt work. It seems, actually, that it is caused by "redzone burn" occuring during construction, which explains why buildings with low hp and long build times self destruct shortly after construction starts. Does anyone know how I can remove redzone burn without changing the buildings race?



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Jul 7 2012, 4:59 pm Biophysicist Post #7



Firegraft has an EXE Edit for that, which you could set to 0 to disable it entirely, though I'm unsure of why the redzone burn is occurring during construction.



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Jul 7 2012, 7:27 pm Spatharas Post #8



Both percent check and damage per cycle are 0 at default, I think that my version of FireGraft (unoficial 1.16.1) can't do EXE edits.



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DarkenedFantasies -- Probably just didn't care. For example, at some point before release, they've updated the graphics of some of the Protoss buildings (Forge, CyberCore, Citadel, Observatory, Arbiter Tribunal), but instead of properly re-rendering them with edited 3D models, they did crappy copy-paste jobs on the rendered graphics.
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Ultraviolet -- :wob:
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Symmetry -- :wob:
[2026-6-21. : 4:56 am]
Ultraviolet -- I suppose we'll likely never know, but my guess would be that they already saw it operating successfully and there was no monetary incentive to finish the original work. And the dev cycle in old school Blizzard was so hectic, it's possible it just got forgotten about after the original game got released. Plus there's an element of existing MPQ files that were packaged with the original discs becoming outdated if they updated it. And it's not like they remade the original MPQs, they just made new ones for BW specifically
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Oh_Man -- so that makes me think maybe the theory they are unfinished is not true and its a deliberate design decision, coz why not finish them wen ur making brood war?
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Oh_Man -- the thing is thos buildings are from classic. that means they went ahead and made brood war without ever finishing the 'unfinished' buildings
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Ultraviolet -- Yeah he's talked about a lot of that stuff in his casts before. It seems plausible. Especially knowing how Blizzard of yesteryear operated.
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NudeRaider -- to clarify: couldn't recall the behavior for every single Protoss building but I was aware the disparity exists.
[2026-6-20. : 3:43 pm]
NudeRaider -- Contained nothing new for me. Didn't know all building's behavior, but very much all unit's. Also Terran balance whine - also nothing new :lol:
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Oh_Man -- makes me wonder if SEN knows anything about the topic
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