i made a map its fastest but way crazier and i added a feature where you can go from a player to an observer. but i find that when one has done this you cannot attack your own units because of the constant ally. i have hyper triggers in my map 9 0waits to be exact.

here are the triggers causing the problem.
Trigger 1 Ally P1 As Obs
Condition:
Command(P1, Exactly, 0, Buildings);
Deaths(P1, Exactly, 0, Bengalaas);
Deaths(P1, Exactly, 1, Alan Schezar Goliath);

Action:
SetAllianceStatus(P1, AlliedVictory);
RunAIScript(Turn ON Shared Vision for Player 1);
PreserveTrigger();
Comment("Ally P1 As Obs");

Trigger 2 Loop 1
Condition:
Deaths(P1, AtLeast, 1, Bengalaas);

Action:
SetDeaths(P1, Subtract, 1, Bengalaas);
PreserveTrigger();
Comment("Loop 1");

Trigger 3 Help Loop 1
Condition:
Command(P1, Exactly, 0, Buildings);

Action:
SetDeaths(P1, SetTo, 2000, Bengalaas);
Comment("Help Loop 1");

i tried extending help loop because its a way to put waits without using a wait action but it still goes instantly. i've found even if the ally doesnt kick in it still doesnt let me attack my stuff. and im am positive its these triggers that are causing the problem.

Is there a reason that as an Observer you still have units and have to kill them yourself? Just kill them by triggers.

And if constant ally is your problem then just don't. Add a timer to the trigger or don't preserve it.

what do you mean add a timer? also i already got a trigger to get rid of units but that isnt the problem these are.

A death count timer. It's better to just detect when you've unallied and really properly.

He means that the players can't attack their own units because an alliance status has changed.

i thought i added a death count timer already lookit the triggers help loop 3 is the timer. and how can i detect when i've unallied?

You didn't preserve the 3rd trigger.

The "foes" player will detect enemies. So if your foes have suffered exactly 1 death of <random DC only player 3 has> then you can ally player 3. You just need some way to identify the foe, which can be a unit somewhere that the player will always have, or a unique DC.

another question, when you randomize start locations does it randomize what player you are? i have team 1 and 2 randomized but my observers (team 3) not randomized yet they still change war colors as if they are randomized.

yes

Only within the randomized force. If Player 1, Player 2, and Player 3 are in Force 1, and you set Force 1 to have random start locations, then someone in Force 1 could end up playing as Player 1, 2, or 3.

If you place units for Player 1 on the map, they will still belong to whichever player ends up as Player 1.

If any force has random start locations, all the colors for all the players will become random. Their player numbers, however, are not being randomized. In your example, if you have Player 6, Player 7, and Player 8 as observers in "Team 3," then whoever is in the first player slot in the lobby will still be Player 6, the second will still be Player 7, and the third will still be Player 8. The only thing that changes is the players' colors.

thanks for the help guys my map works. if you want it here's the thread link.
http://www.staredit.net/topic/9686/
check it out its fastest map but waaaay crazier alot of cool features.