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(2)The North Star
Feb 17 2010, 4:51 pm
By: Super Duper  

Feb 17 2010, 4:51 pm Super Duper Post #1





Lets see here...
6 Stacked temples.
3 Psi Disruptors.
Concept: Obviously, the easy natural and min-only harass is a big factor. Don't complain about no turret room at the nat, because you can just plant a turret or two on the high ground, then you are safe.



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Feb 18 2010, 6:43 am UnholyUrine Post #2



:D
I like the concept of how the base + nat spans the entire top/bot of map.
I don't like the middle.... obviously, I don't know every single strat in melee cause I don't reli play it... but it's really open and decorated really strangely... :\ (especially the ice)



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Feb 18 2010, 5:09 pm Super Duper Post #3



The ice looks weird to prevent units from being dropped in the ice.
If it wasn't open, I bet Terran would dominate.



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Feb 18 2010, 9:16 pm UnholyUrine Post #4



I know that <.<
You can probably mix in some dirt in there and use different doodads to make it look better.



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Feb 18 2010, 9:41 pm Super Duper Post #5





Seriously, I have dirt around the center, or were you referring to something else?



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Feb 18 2010, 9:53 pm UnholyUrine Post #6



Sorry i meant snow XD



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Feb 18 2010, 11:41 pm Aristocrat Post #7



It's way easier to use a transport to get to the 3rd gas than killing all the temples, so it's essentially an island that can be broken by outside forces. Maybe put a mineral so terran can't float a CC in. (Toss and zerg need every one of their reavers/lurkers so they can't be bothered to kill the temples) You could have skimped a little on the doodading, but eh...

(There's a huge difference between turrets in the nat and turrets 1 matrix away from the nat on top of a cliff, btw.)

Also, you probably could have just interlaced snow with ice to make it undroppable instead of this, looks nicer as well.

Just as a side note, I know it's ironic, but please try to avoid snow as much as possible on the snow tileset, it hurts our eyes.



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Feb 20 2010, 6:15 pm Super Duper Post #8



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It's way easier to use a transport to get to the 3rd gas than killing all the temples, so it's essentially an island that can be broken by outside forces. Maybe put a mineral so terran can't float a CC in. (Toss and zerg need every one of their reavers/lurkers so they can't be bothered to kill the temples) You could have skimped a little on the doodading, but eh...

- I have a mineral, but the dumb pic doesnt say so. Besides, I didnt want this map to be a map where you cant make an unpredictable move without air.

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Also, you probably could have just interlaced snow with ice to make it undroppable instead of this, looks nicer as well.

- Still tank accessible

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Just as a side note, I know it's ironic, but please try to avoid snow as much as possible on the snow tileset, it hurts our eyes.
- Theres barely any snow, except around the nats and the thirds.



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Feb 20 2010, 6:22 pm Devourer Post #9

Hello

I like it, especially those ramps are awesome, never seen them before. But what I don't like is how linear the middle is.



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Feb 20 2010, 7:43 pm Aristocrat Post #10



Quote from name:Ciara
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Also, you probably could have just interlaced snow with ice to make it undroppable instead of this, looks nicer as well.

- Still tank accessible

I hate to be that guy, but...





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Feb 20 2010, 9:41 pm Dem0n Post #11

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Try without grid. Sometimes you can place units in there if you try really hard.




Feb 20 2010, 9:44 pm Aristocrat Post #12



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Try without grid. Sometimes you can place units in there if you try really hard.

I had units snap to grid turned off; the grid is there to show that all the holes are less than 1 matrix high for most of its span. A tank, which takes up a continuous 1 matrix square, cannot fit.



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Feb 21 2010, 1:55 am UnholyUrine Post #13



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You can probably mix in some dirt snow in there and use different doodads to make it look better.

See? :D



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