Ok so i've just decided to write a little story I had in mind. It's just a rough draft, so it isn't fully corrected, and I haven't examined the story structure so it might be missing something so give me a little leeway. Do please correct any errors you find. Wondering what you thought. (no extra details about the plot or anything, just what is written in the .doc

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Say what you didn't like. Say what you like. I wanna hear your thoughts.
Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Sep 6 2008, 12:50 am by Jello-Jigglers.
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I read it. It felt a bit dry at times when you were talking about the WF and IU stuff.
Kay's imagination is disturbing. Also, is there artificial gravity in those Stations? How is there a 9th floor to fall from.
Here's a couple mistakes I found:
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I read it. It felt a bit dry at times when you were talking about the WF and IU stuff.
Kay's imagination is disturbing. Also, is there artificial gravity in those Stations? How is there a 9th floor to fall from.
Here's a couple mistakes I found:
Ok thanks

ya kay is supposed to be depressed and disturbed due to being an orphan.
oh most of those errors just needed some proof reading, thanks:) (lol caveman?)
So the purpose of WF and IU is to set up a deeper story about Earth because Kay can't remember. Wanna take this to pm's and we can co-write? Ill tell you the plot I have so far
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There are some issues with the varying voice and pace that I noticed... It just doesn't have flow, it seemed too rushed. Also, the voice is mostly flat third-person, with a few off-hand (comic?) comments, which kind of bothered me. It needs to have one of the two styles, or be blended a little better, or it just sounds schizophrenic.
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There are some issues with the varying voice and pace that I noticed... It just doesn't have flow, it seemed too rushed. Also, the voice is mostly flat third-person, with a few off-hand (comic?) comments, which kind of bothered me. It needs to have one of the two styles, or be blended a little better, or it just sounds schizophrenic.
Ok i can fix the voice, but what about pace? It moves fast and slow??
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Well, using the first chapter for an example, the first paragraph was good, it had a lot of imagery and it wasn't just rushing through things by saying, "This isn't Earth". But then, in the second paragraph, you suddenly get shoved into superspeed history lesson, with some things that could use some more explaining (Who is Edward J. Telon, besidse that guy who came up with space stations? What ever happened to the
third World War?) It just doesn't have a whole lot of detail about what's going on from there on, until the first few paragraphs of the second chapter. Notice that in published novels, there are times when things move fast (i.e. major events) and when things are slower, detailed, deliberate (i.e. lulls, or the plot building scenes between the major events), but hardly anything goes unexplained. I found that in my earlier writings, things would move fairly quickly, which seems a bit awkward reading it now, but I'm fixing that in my current things. Should I post some of it so you can get an idea of what I'm talking about?
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Well, using the first chapter for an example, the first paragraph was good, it had a lot of imagery and it wasn't just rushing through things by saying, "This isn't Earth". But then, in the second paragraph, you suddenly get shoved into superspeed history lesson, with some things that could use some more explaining (Who is Edward J. Telon, besidse that guy who came up with space stations? What ever happened to the third World War?) It just doesn't have a whole lot of detail about what's going on from there on, until the first few paragraphs of the second chapter. Notice that in published novels, there are times when things move fast (i.e. major events) and when things are slower, detailed, deliberate (i.e. lulls, or the plot building scenes between the major events), but hardly anything goes unexplained. I found that in my earlier writings, things would move fairly quickly, which seems a bit awkward reading it now, but I'm fixing that in my current things. Should I post some of it so you can get an idea of what I'm talking about?
Of coarse. I'd love to see some examples. As I said, this is only a first draft, but I just saw some potential in the story so I decided to run with it and do some mock chapters.
Also, How do you feel about the chapter headings?
[Edit] As an after thought, Kasis, you said the history was rather dry, but I thought I hurried it along enough for it not to detract from any non-history buffs. Do you just not like history in general, or do you agree with Fatal and think it would be more enjoyable with more details?
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People said that the earth would be uninhabitable, littered with waste and radiation.
Do I use a comma or a semicolon? lol I sorta have bad writing skills, but I have a story I wanna tell haha.
Post has been edited 3 time(s), last time on Sep 7 2008, 3:30 am by Jello-Jigglers.
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Semicolon, and have the history of what happened slowly revealed throughout the story. I'll attach some examples of rushed and... Not so rushed in a minute.
Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on Sep 7 2008, 4:14 am by FatalException.
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Well, using the first chapter for an example, the first paragraph was good, it had a lot of imagery and it wasn't just rushing through things by saying, "This isn't Earth". But then, in the second paragraph, you suddenly get shoved into superspeed history lesson, with some things that could use some more explaining (Who is Edward J. Telon, besidse that guy who came up with space stations? What ever happened to the third World War?) It just doesn't have a whole lot of detail about what's going on from there on, until the first few paragraphs of the second chapter. Notice that in published novels, there are times when things move fast (i.e. major events) and when things are slower, detailed, deliberate (i.e. lulls, or the plot building scenes between the major events), but hardly anything goes unexplained. I found that in my earlier writings, things would move fairly quickly, which seems a bit awkward reading it now, but I'm fixing that in my current things. Should I post some of it so you can get an idea of what I'm talking about?
Of coarse. I'd love to see some examples. As I said, this is only a first draft, but I just saw some potential in the story so I decided to run with it and do some mock chapters.
Also, How do you feel about the chapter headings?
[Edit] As an after thought, Kasis, you said the history was rather dry, but I thought I hurried it along enough for it not to detract from any non-history buffs. Do you just not like history in general, or do you agree with Fatal and think it would be more enjoyable with more details?
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People said that the earth would be uninhabitable, littered with waste and radiation.
Do I use a comma or a semicolon? lol I sorta have bad writing skills, but I have a story I wanna tell haha.
I'd probably use a hyphen, if not the comman is alright. It really doesn't matter. A semicolon definitely doesn't go there -- semicolon's usually separate what would normally be two sentences when you want to keep the clauses more closely related. "Littered with waste and radiation" would not be its own sentence. I think it would sound better like this though: "People said that the earth would be littered with waste and radiation. An uninhabitable badlands." Now, the second sentence is a fragment, but that's not something I would care about. I don't know if you would.
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Well, using the first chapter for an example, the first paragraph was good, it had a lot of imagery and it wasn't just rushing through things by saying, "This isn't Earth". But then, in the second paragraph, you suddenly get shoved into superspeed history lesson, with some things that could use some more explaining (Who is Edward J. Telon, besidse that guy who came up with space stations? What ever happened to the third World War?) It just doesn't have a whole lot of detail about what's going on from there on, until the first few paragraphs of the second chapter. Notice that in published novels, there are times when things move fast (i.e. major events) and when things are slower, detailed, deliberate (i.e. lulls, or the plot building scenes between the major events), but hardly anything goes unexplained. I found that in my earlier writings, things would move fairly quickly, which seems a bit awkward reading it now, but I'm fixing that in my current things. Should I post some of it so you can get an idea of what I'm talking about?
Of coarse. I'd love to see some examples. As I said, this is only a first draft, but I just saw some potential in the story so I decided to run with it and do some mock chapters.
Also, How do you feel about the chapter headings?
[Edit] As an after thought, Kasis, you said the history was rather dry, but I thought I hurried it along enough for it not to detract from any non-history buffs. Do you just not like history in general, or do you agree with Fatal and think it would be more enjoyable with more details?
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People said that the earth would be uninhabitable, littered with waste and radiation.
Do I use a comma or a semicolon? lol I sorta have bad writing skills, but I have a story I wanna tell haha.
I'd probably use a hyphen, if not the comman is alright. It really doesn't matter. A semicolon definitely doesn't go there -- semicolon's usually separate what would normally be two sentences when you want to keep the clauses more closely related. "Littered with waste and radiation" would not be its own sentence. I think it would sound better like this though: "People said that the earth would be littered with waste and radiation. An uninhabitable badlands." Now, the second sentence is a fragment, but that's not something I would care about. I don't know if you would.
I like it. It emphasizes uninhabitable, which was my initial goal. Mind if I keep it? I'll remember to cite you

haha.
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Semicolon, and have the history of what happened slowly revealed throughout the story. I'll attach some examples of rushed and... Not so rushed in a minute.
Ok perfect.
As for revealing it slowly, it wouldn't really fit the writing I wanted to portray if i do it that way... I wanted to slowly reveal Kay's past life slowly, and doing the history at the same time will de-emphasize it don't ya think? Also, that is sort of just a brief history with some more details worked in a little later.
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Here is an example of rushing. Attached is a piece of the zeroth chapter of what I'm doing now, and it flows a bit better.
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Here is an example of rushing. Attached is a piece of the zeroth chapter of what I'm doing now, and it flows a bit better.
Well ya it flows better, but it isn't exactly the same context... You go for the "talk first, intro later" Whereas I was trying to give my intro first. You also have the more relaxed narative voice that is a little more reader interactive. Do you think I need to change mine? Or better yet, how should I alter it to give it a little more interesting factor?
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In my writing, I like to integrate the background information into a more interesting scene. If you just give straight background information, it just makes it seem a little like a school textbook, it's just spoon feeding the reader information in a rather, as Kaias said, dry way. So, instead of saying something like, 'The war ended 20 years ago', I would prefer something along the lines of, '"Can you imagine what would've happened had there never been a war?" she asked with a mellow, depressed sort of tone as she stared off into the air.'
As for voice, it really depends on what you're comfortable with, your style, and your intentions. If you're going to stick with third person, I would leave the funny side-comments to the characters, and definitely maintain a level of professionalism in the intonation. I much prefer the first-person perspective, but that's just my style. I like to explore around in the main character's head, think of not my story, but
his story, the one that shapes who he is, then write my story through that filter. I like a lot of depth in my characters. Again, though, that's just my style. Write a variety of things and figure out how you like doing it best. Many authors think that first-person is a lot harder than third, though, so remember that.
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Yeah you can use it Jello. That was why I told you what I thought sounded better in the first place.

I still haven't read your story yet, but I'll get around to it eventually.
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In my writing, I like to integrate the background information into a more interesting scene. If you just give straight background information, it just makes it seem a little like a school textbook, it's just spoon feeding the reader information in a rather, as Kaias said, dry way. So, instead of saying something like, 'The war ended 20 years ago', I would prefer something along the lines of, '"Can you imagine what would've happened had there never been a war?" she asked with a mellow, depressed sort of tone as she stared off into the air.'
Better yet, can I do a limited third person around 2 or 3 central subjects? or would that get too confusing to the reader? I just feel that would fit the story better.
As for voice, it really depends on what you're comfortable with, your style, and your intentions. If you're going to stick with third person, I would leave the funny side-comments to the characters, and definitely maintain a level of professionalism in the intonation. I much prefer the first-person perspective, but that's just my style. I like to explore around in the main character's head, think of not my story, but his story, the one that shapes who he is, then write my story through that filter. I like a lot of depth in my characters. Again, though, that's just my style. Write a variety of things and figure out how you like doing it best. Many authors think that first-person is a lot harder than third, though, so remember that.
Ok so I'll work on adding a little something before the war story so it isn't just thrown at the reader. And ya I wanna stick to third. First seems too restricted to one character whereas for this story, I would prefer an all encompassing, "omnipotent" view.
Yeah you can use it Jello. That was why I told you what I thought sounded better in the first place.

I still haven't read your story yet, but I'll get around to it eventually.
Well the whole thing is subject to change, so it might even be best if you wait a bit so I can post my updates and share the next chapter idea.
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I read it. It felt a bit dry at times when you were talking about the WF and IU stuff.
Kay's imagination is disturbing. Also, is there artificial gravity in those Stations? How is there a 9th floor to fall from.
Here's a couple mistakes I found:
Ok thanks

ya kay is supposed to be depressed and disturbed due to being an orphan.
oh most of those errors just needed some proof reading, thanks:) (lol caveman?)
So the purpose of WF and IU is to set up a deeper story about Earth because Kay can't remember. Wanna take this to pm's and we can co-write? Ill tell you the plot I have so far

Sorry, I haven't the time to undertake anymore projects. Plus I think our writing styles would clash. It's an interesting story so far, though.
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In my writing, I like to integrate the background information into a more interesting scene. If you just give straight background information, it just makes it seem a little like a school textbook, it's just spoon feeding the reader information in a rather, as Kaias said, dry way. So, instead of saying something like, 'The war ended 20 years ago', I would prefer something along the lines of, '"Can you imagine what would've happened had there never been a war?" she asked with a mellow, depressed sort of tone as she stared off into the air.'
Better yet, can I do a limited third person around 2 or 3 central subjects? or would that get too confusing to the reader? I just feel that would fit the story better.
As for voice, it really depends on what you're comfortable with, your style, and your intentions. If you're going to stick with third person, I would leave the funny side-comments to the characters, and definitely maintain a level of professionalism in the intonation. I much prefer the first-person perspective, but that's just my style. I like to explore around in the main character's head, think of not my story, but his story, the one that shapes who he is, then write my story through that filter. I like a lot of depth in my characters. Again, though, that's just my style. Write a variety of things and figure out how you like doing it best. Many authors think that first-person is a lot harder than third, though, so remember that.
Ok so I'll work on adding a little something before the war story so it isn't just thrown at the reader. And ya I wanna stick to third. First seems too restricted to one character whereas for this story, I would prefer an all encompassing, "omnipotent" view.
Yeah you can use it Jello. That was why I told you what I thought sounded better in the first place.

I still haven't read your story yet, but I'll get around to it eventually.
Well the whole thing is subject to change, so it might even be best if you wait a bit so I can post my updates and share the next chapter idea.

Having the narrative be centered on a few different characters works just fine. If you've ever read a book from the Pendragon series, you'll notice that it switches between third and first-person views depending on the characters it's following.
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If you've ever read a book from the Pendragon series, you'll notice that it switches between third and first-person views depending on the characters it's following.
Someone else who has read the Pendragon series? =O And to note, they switch very effectively and smoothly.
If you've ever read a book from the Pendragon series, you'll notice that it switches between third and first-person views depending on the characters it's following.
Someone else who has read the Pendragon series? =O And to note, they switch very effectively and smoothly.
Ok thanks guys

Maybe I should read pendragon?
As for progress goes, I've hand written a sketch for the introduction of a commander (a possible name being Alexander McCormick) living on Earth who will play a very large role(the antagonist). Mostly it's just scripting, and it looks like it will fit in well as the 4th or 5th chapter, or maybe even being the 1st chapter(with some alterations). More details coming
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