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No UI Editor for scumedit
Jun 10 2008, 3:18 am
By: Ateo  

Jun 10 2008, 3:18 am Ateo Post #1



http://www.battle.net/forums/thread.aspx?FN=sc2-general&T=1207685&P=2

On page 2 post number 28.

Anyone else thinks that its too bad? :(



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Jun 10 2008, 3:46 am Ckol Post #2



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All UI layout is defined in external files, so this should be possible. However, we are not planning on having any user-friendly support for this (i.e. no UI Editor).

You'll probably just need to learn some XML and possibly LUA to be able to edit the UI



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Jun 10 2008, 4:04 am chuiu Post #3



Unrelated but I think it says something about the UMS community when the map maker series has almost double the replies to the next largest FAQ.

EDIT: Second thought, the UMS community is more widespread whereas the melee community is concentrated in the same couple websites (GosuGamers, TLNET).



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Jun 10 2008, 5:32 am Ateo Post #4



It might not be as unrelated as you think...I sort of foresaw that Blizzard would not make changing the interface easy for the lay person (i.e someone who has no idea about LUA or XML or programming stuff)...My theory is that Blizzard is worried about people modifying the game to the point of being unrecognizable as Starcraft, that the core game of Starcraft becomes forgotten. I mean sure, UMS is more popular and giving the players more power to customize the gameplay experience might encourage more people to buy the game, but it doesn't help Starcraft as a brand name.



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Jun 10 2008, 4:41 pm A_of-s_t Post #5

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It might not be as unrelated as you think...I sort of foresaw that Blizzard would not make changing the interface easy for the lay person (i.e someone who has no idea about LUA or XML or programming stuff)...My theory is that Blizzard is worried about people modifying the game to the point of being unrecognizable as Starcraft, that the core game of Starcraft becomes forgotten. I mean sure, UMS is more popular and giving the players more power to customize the gameplay experience might encourage more people to buy the game, but it doesn't help Starcraft as a brand name.
Yes, it does help the Starcraft name because it all runs on the Starcraft engine. Modding sometimes changes SC to a point where it is unrecognizable to the original game, but it still runs on the SC engine. All that is needed is for everything to require that they own the game and it helps SC in the long run.



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Jun 10 2008, 7:58 pm chuiu Post #6



As long as people can't change the UI for melee I'm fine with it.



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Ultraviolet -- Symmetry
Symmetry shouted: Man I wish we had this tech back in the day when people played ums lmao
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Symmetry -- Man I wish we had this tech back in the day when people played ums lmao
[2026-7-16. : 6:28 am]
NudeRaider -- EUD actions, specifically. The conditions remained. Today we can even have actions again, but they're all virtualized/whitelisted (not sure on the actual technical implementation) so you can only use them for specific intended purposed, not arbitrary code injections.
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NudeRaider -- I mean yes, maps - through EUDs - were theoretically able to do that as well, but that was patched quickly.
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NudeRaider -- Symmetry
Symmetry shouted: Ohhh imagine a SC map that could delete itself
not the map, the editor
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Symmetry -- I vaguely remember Voy doing some ACE back in the day, but I had no idea EUDs could do that kind of shit. I am very much catching up on the technology
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Symmetry -- Ohhh imagine a SC map that could delete itself
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NudeRaider -- Symmetry
Symmetry shouted: NudeRaider Is EUD editor capable of writing shit onto the player's harddrive? That seems like it would be dangerous
yeah an editor that isn't allowed to write files sounds rather pointless, so I'd assume it can. Like most other programs too btw. and yes, obviously that's dangerous, but also kinda necessary. MS introduced that virtualization for exactly that reason.
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Ultraviolet -- I don't think so. I think they shut that shit down after 1.16, maybe even earlier
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