Hi SEN,

I'm currently planning a new PC build for myself. Mostly for Windows 4K gaming and light office stuff, but also the odd incursion into local AI models or video encoding. This is where leaving nVidia will probably hurt the most. Then again, with an AMD card I will probably go for dual boot with Linux and see how far that gets me. Pros and cons.

What do you guys think? Any suggestions or comments? Something out of place? No need to be gentle.


Notes:
- No particular budget, I just picked what I felt I will need.
- Wanted a mainboard with Toslink/SPDIF
- 32 GB of RAM will likely last many years. I never use more than 20 currently and that hasn't really changed in recent years. If necessary I can buy more later.
- Yes I'm serious, 8 TB of SSD, so I can stay without HDDs over the course of its life. Will also add a 2 TB drive I alread own, so there's only one M.2 slot left free.
- Bye nVidia. You treated us gamers like shit for long enough.
- I may be crazy for wanting this monitor, but 4K OLED sounds awesome, I want that. Wish there were 27" models. Then again, I'm getting old so a bigger screen might even be a good thing.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor (€549.27 @ Galaxus)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3 70.84 CFM CPU Cooler (€37.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: ASRock B850 LiveMixer WiFi ATX AM5 Motherboard (€231.89 @ Galaxus)
Memory: Kingston FURY Beast 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (€194.90 @ Alza)
Storage: Western Digital WD_Black SN850X 8 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€634.99 @ SanDisk)
Video Card: PowerColor Red Devil OC Radeon RX 9070 XT 16 GB Video Card (€1064.47 @ Computersalg)
Case: Fractal Design North ATX Mid Tower Case (€148.90 @ Alza)
Power Supply: be quiet! Straight Power 12 1000 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€188.39 @ Mindfactory)
Case Fan: be quiet! Silent Wings 4 51.3 CFM 140 mm Fan (€23.90 @ Alza)
Case Fan: be quiet! Silent Wings 4 51.3 CFM 140 mm Fan (€23.90 @ Alza)
Monitor: Gigabyte AORUS FO32U2P 31.5" 3840 x 2160 240 Hz Monitor (€1049.00 @ Proshop)
Total: €4147.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-03-08 02:47 CET+0100

Core of the build is solid. 9800X3D + 9070XT is the winning combination for now. Will do pretty much anything.

Only changes from me are cooler and RAM.

PA 120 SE is the only cooler to get if you don't want to spend the coin on a D-15 G2. I'm sorry that Thermalright has made 98% of all coolers irrelevant, but they have.
Its 2025 and 64GB is my recommendation for builds above ~1500$ US. For this price class its silly not to get it. I routinely use 70-80% of my 64GB while gaming w/other programs open. Also AMD is rarely going to do over 6000 frequency and be happy about it so even if you stay at 32GB I don't like the kit you've chosen.

Ah cool (pun intended) didn't know that cooler. Thanks

I'm never nowhere near that. Currently I have 2 games running (Baldurs gate 3, RA3), several browser windows and tabs, LibreOffice, VLC, Steam, Epic and Signal running. Barely hitting 50% of 32GB. I only get a little higher with more demanding games tbh. That's about the max I will ever use.

I imagine you have Adobe Photoshop / MS Office / VS Studio or other fat apps that offer about 10x the functionality that any one person will use just so it fits everyone?

Anyway, you make another good point: RAM speed. I originally did have a 6000 Kit with even lower Latency but then I remembered that RAM throughput has become relevant again. So this is not true for AMD/DDR5? What do you think of this Kit?
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/mwPv6h/gskill-flare-x5-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl28-memory-f5-6000j2836g16gx2-fx5

AMD's sweet spot for frequency is 6000, and anything that does sub 10ns on the first timing is considered a 'good' kit.

The kit is fine but honestly Nude with the money you save on the cooler just bump the RAM up. Its like people who last gen said "Oh I can buy mid/low end NV cards cause I don't need that much VRAM" and within 2yrs they regretted that choice.

Dissenting opinion: it's 2025 and I'm still fine with 16 GB unless I'm running OBS with replay buffering alongside a demanding game. 32 GB is more than enough, and you can buy another 2 sticks to double it if and when you need to. Unused RAM is unequivocally a waste of money.

It's wild that you're spending more on your monitor than the graphics card to run it. The best time to buy OLED is always another year from now, by which I mean it is a constantly improving technology: prices are steadily decreasing while quality and performance are steadily improving. But let's assume you're happy with where OLED is today.

Your monitor choice uses QD-OLED, which is best used in dark environments. If you're going to use this monitor in a room frequently filled with natural light, you may want to consider a WOLED display instead (I don't see any with availability on de.pcpartpicker.com, unfortunately, but here's one on the US market: Asus ROG Swift OLED PG32UCDP). Alternatively, spend €20 or so on some blackout curtains so you can have a nice and dark room when you need it.

That requires we assume I even know where OLED is today.
But since nobody has yet tried to talk me out of it I'm gonna assume it's fine.


Suggesting a low cost low tech alternative when it can also be solved with expensive high tech? Are you insane?

Also yeah I know about the low brightness, but how dare you assume my gender living conditions. Naturally I dwell in a basement. Thanks for the WOLED tip though. Haven't spent much time researching.

Btw. PCPartPicker doesn't work as well in Germany as in the US for finding prices. It often doesn't find stuff that's actually available. I still like it for the building part though.


For the record I was always wishing for more VRAM. At least 16-20 GB. I even upped my 3080 to the TI model so I can at least have 12 GB instead of 10. Dunno how people couldn't see less is not enough. NVidia certainly knew and still knows it. They intentionally give cards too little VRAM so you have to buy a higher model and if you dare to go for AI stuff it'll better be a x090.

EDIT: @Roy
Just read this article and I think QD-OLED fits me better because I do have control of the brightness of my room and prefer vivid colors over peak white brightness.

Post has been edited 3 time(s), last time on Mar 9 2025, 2:06 am by NudeRaider.

So I do a lot of AI stuff, which means I'm pretty tied to Nvidia. It looks like you're unhappy with the VRAM, but is there more to it than that? I don't claim to know much about the gaming GPU market anymore, but have we finally reached a point where AMD is a true competitor again? Like in regards to price, power consumption, heat dissipation, performance, etc, not just as a low-end alternative to a market that Nvidia dominates?

I'm mostly fed up with their pricing and promising unrealistic MSRP prices to create hype and low stock that immediately is gone a few minutes after launch. I also dislike their dishonest marketing (i.e. fake frames) and yes, their model structure especially in terms of VRAM. The thing is AI stuff is generating them tons of cash and higher margins and so we only get scraps while the fabs churn out their AI hardware.

Unfortunately AMD now just pulled the exact same shit, promising affordable cards while explicitly stating that there will be lots of stock initially, which turned out to be a lie. It's not a good time to be a gamer anymore, unfortunately.

In terms of performance they've given up the top end segment, but created decent cards in the mid/high end segment that's suitable for 4K gaming. They've also stepped up their game with supporting tech like ray tracing, AI upscaling and even frame gen for some games. Not quite on nVidia level yet, but still respectable. They also caught up, if not surpassed nVidia in terms of power efficiency.

Aight, gonna pull the trigger later that night. Ended up downgrading some items where I got good deals for a "good enough" part:

• The monitor (FO32U2P->FO32U) (pcpartpicker doesn't know it so I picked FO32U2)
  
• RAM (CL28->CL30)
  
• PSU (Straight->Pure)
  
• Case Fans (Silent Wings 4 -> Pure Wings 3)

Any last minute comments?



Prices are a little off because I'll get everything from 2 Shops:

Mindfactory: 1682.87 EUR
Amazon:      1742.22 EUR
Total:       3425.09 EUR (free shipping)

Post has been edited 4 time(s), last time on Apr 7 2025, 4:16 pm by NudeRaider.