Hey I am taintedwisp, the lead designer of EvoFrenzy, I have ran many sites, and I am bored so I would like to know what needs to be done on this site so it can strive in Sc2 Mapping community.

You need to bring as many people from mapster to SEN as possible.

We've had many threads appear over the years about this topic. Nothing new will come from this discussion, unfortunately, and I have a feeling we'll just hear the same things over and over again.

The fact of the matter is SEN will always be known as a SC1 community, and though I am grateful that we have incredible SC2 mapmakers on here producing amazing projects like Diablo and Temple Siege 2, I think we'd be fooling ourselves if we ever thought SEN would be a major player in the SC2 mapmaking circuit. There are a bunch of great communities out there, and it is unfortunate that they are all shadowed by the giant that is SC2Mapster, but so far we're all comfortably doing our own thing. As much as I'd like more SC2 traffic on SEN, I'm happy knowing SEN is still alive and well in some capacity as the community I was eager to join so many years ago.

That said, in terms of SC2 I am still proud of the GalaxyWiki and I'm glad to see a ton of traffic still reaching the site each day. It is not the greatest resource out there, mostly due to the lack of written contributions to it, but it is still linked to as a solid resource nonetheless. Hopefully one day it will become as complete as I'd wished from the beginning, but we can't magically make that content appear and I can't do it all myself.

If you do think of something to bring people to our great community here or to the GalaxyWiki, I'd be glad to hear about it.

1) SEN has had issues with MySQL query errors for a few years. It affects the performance of the website and definitely bothers the community;
2) There has been some work done toward the production of SENv6, maybe you could be of some help there;
3) It pretty much all comes down to PR I guess if you want to increase the Sc2 community in here.

Not really. I forgot it's been a while since you've been on. IP only did a very small amount of things for v6, and integrated them into the current system. This caused issues with PMs as well as a few other things, if I remember correctly.

Wasn't Cecil working on something major? We had a pretty awesome new skin coming up.

Oh that 6.0, right. Yeah, unfortunately school and work forced him to indefinitely postpone that a while back as well.

Well then here we are, having some job to offer to taintedwisp.

He didn't say he's a coder, he said he's run sites before. Don't get ahead of yourself.

No offense taintedwisp, but what I find weird about thread is that I've never seen you on SEN before, nor heard of you or EvoFrenzy. Basically a complete stranger.
And why would a complete stranger want to put work in our community? What are your motives?
Also I still don't know what exactly it is you're is offering to us, of if it even is an offer. Or is it just an inquiry? What would be the motives for that inquiry?

So at this point I am at a loss how you can consider giving access to our code to him, payne. For all we know this could be Corbo in disguise trying to screw up SEN even more.

Anyways to answer the OP's question: What SEN needs most is an influx of new members. Contributing members. Though I have no idea what is required for that.

If it was up to me, I'd share the code with pretty much anyone that wants it.
They can then edit it to their like and submit back the modified code with highlighted modifications.
The community would then analyze the modification and decide either or not they want it applied.

Considering SEN basically needs a complete overhaul, I don't think that would be very effective. Part of the reason SEN is so finicky is probably because the code overall is so patchy.

Hey thats not true, I posted here once haha, Nah actually I only know about SEN from Ahli . I chill in the mapster IRC quite a bit hehe, Anyways, my goal is to boost the entire mapping community, but if mapster is the only one with anyone, then where do the disgruntled members go? The idea is, if there are multiple sites that are doing well, then if a member has a problem with one site they will go to another, rather then up and quitting mapping like many have done haha.

So what I did is choose 3 Sites that I wanted to boost, SEN, UDMOD, and HiveWorkshop, Each of them I know someone who recommends them greatly . In the mapster community i am one of the most known people, even if it is primarily for trolling, but also for helping others, and creating tutorials.

and Also sadly I am not a programmer, I can only read the code not actually write it

http://www.facebook.com/EvoFrenzyUnited

Thats evofrenzy I have only mentioned it on the mapster forums and the IRC haha. So its cool if you haven't heard of me.

Also I am not corbo if your talking about the SC2Mapster Moderator, lol, that guy was a dick haha, anyways I dont need your code nor do I need any admin powers or anything of the sort haha, this was more of an introduction then aynthing

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Nov 19 2012, 8:26 pm by taintedwisp.

If you do a quick search for SEN on SC2Mapster, we're not the most liked there so good luck with your PR venture. I'm on great terms with Sixen personally, but unfortunately the communities as a whole tend to clash despite how much I'd like a more peaceful coexistence.

touche' But personally I dont care much about that hahah. I dont know the last time you have checked, but the vast majority of mapsters community is new.
They were on the verge of dying out haha. I have a few ideas to boost everyone, but Unfortunately the largest one will require sixen to edit his Galaxy FAQ post to include the other sites as well. right now the main faq that is stickied just goes to mapster.... which i still have to talk to him about .

Well heres what I can promise everyone, I wont do anything that could hurt your community, and I will do my best to help it I really cant make any promises, but I would like to at least see what I can do. lol i like that.

Yeah, that's one major issue. As much as I like Sixen personally, he definitely wants to just promote his community rather than all of them. And I totally understand why he'd promote SC2Mapster's wiki over the one the rest of us use, but a link to our effort would be nice nonetheless.

Eh I've seen how he posts and carries himself; he's a bit immature and rather selfish.

But yeah dont expect it to happen within even this week, but Imma try to build a case to him why he should and how it would benefit his site as well. perhaps then we can get the ball rolling . But first I need to start building up the galaxy wiki with new tutorials.

That's pretty much the problem. His business uselessly divides the work done by mappers from all communities (I'm talking here of his refusal to get Sc2Mapster involved in GalaxyWiki).

Aside from that, Sixen is a good guy, I guess.

/off to go take a look at sc2m.

EDIT:
If you can get him to promote our Sc2 Puzzle Contest, kudo! I'd love to see lots of submissions, and I do not care if they are advertising Sc2m.

Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on Nov 19 2012, 9:46 pm by payne.

Ha. Love seeing that I am remembered in some way.
though, to be honest NudeRaider you have banned every single one of my accounts, have you ever SEEN me disguising myself?

Well, that hurts. Coming from someone that spells your...
And I am still a moderator, by the way, so watch it because I really am a dick.


What needs to be done is that they need to fix their search function. That's about it... I hate having to go back pages and pages to find a topic I need whenever I come back and find something in here.