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Quick play FFA as zerg
Aug 19 2010, 10:14 am
By: MasterJohnny  

Aug 19 2010, 10:14 am MasterJohnny Post #1



How do you win as Zerg for a quick play FFA?
They always mass air and if i get corruptors, they can easily switch over to stalkers and sentry or marines and tanks.
Zerg seems terrible at fighting void rays and battle cruisers.



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Aug 19 2010, 11:02 pm Amadi Post #2



Hydras counter void rays. First of all, they are low on health so the overcooking lazah beam doesn't help much, and they can burrow to stop it anyway. Or to run away. Battlecruisers, however.. Well, corruptors get countered by Vikings so hard it's not even funny, so you probably have to rely on hydras against them, too.



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Aug 20 2010, 2:01 am MasterJohnny Post #3



If I burrow the void rays will either run away or keep shooting (if they have observer). I do not like this gamble.



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Aug 20 2010, 6:45 pm 13Stallion Post #4



Mass hydra with infestor support



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Aug 20 2010, 11:55 pm Amadi Post #5



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If I burrow the void rays will either run away or keep shooting (if they have observer). I do not like this gamble.

You only burrow the ones that are low on health, duh? :wtfage:



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Aug 23 2010, 5:28 am MasterJohnny Post #6



Quote from Amadi
Quote from MasterJohnny
If I burrow the void rays will either run away or keep shooting (if they have observer). I do not like this gamble.

You only burrow the ones that are low on health, duh? :wtfage:
This isn't working. I am still getting owned by void rays.



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Aug 23 2010, 9:41 pm Amadi Post #7



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Quote from MasterJohnny
If I burrow the void rays will either run away or keep shooting (if they have observer). I do not like this gamble.

You only burrow the ones that are low on health, duh? :wtfage:
This isn't working. I am still getting owned by void rays.
If you can't beat Void Rays with Hydralisks, you probably can't beat them at all with Zerg, since there are no other counters available.

Then again, the only situation where I can see this being true is when you are at a disadvantage towards him, either due to having your drones die to an early harass or because he has an expansion over you. Or if you teched sloooowlyyy and had too many roaches instead of hydras.



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Aug 24 2010, 4:16 pm Vi3t-X Post #8



Hydralisks > Void Rays. You either suck at micro, or you forgot the range upgrade.

Against a balanced terran army (one that is actually smart):
A siege tank, viking, raven and either marines or thor build is virtually impossible to defeat head on. Abuse the use of overlord drops and nydus worms.

Against a balanced zerg army (and we're still assuming that everyone has gone super tech, because apparently they massed air):
Infestors are your friends. If they have cracklings, you should have either more cracklings, or a few ultralisks. Oh, and if you're really bad at macro, and you manage to store up energy on your queen, use transfusion.

Against abalanced protoss army:
I've never actually played zerg against a balanced protoss army. It never gets that far. :P


Use zerg mobility to your advantage.



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