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(4) Mar-Sara Desert
May 16 2010, 10:54 pm
By: PunWisp  

May 18 2010, 8:37 pm PunWisp Post #21



What Im gonna be doing is path them so Reapers and collossi can't use them. Same with stalkers. killing the OPness



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May 19 2010, 6:44 pm Valug Post #22



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Updated picture with newest version.

I looked at the map ingame and I came across a few minor issues. Firstly, as I mentioned earlier, it looks really awkward when the playable bounds are the end of the terrain, because the map just ends into nothing. Adding terrain past the playable bounds, even if its a bottomless pit or water, looks way better then just blackness imo. Here are some examples. I know there is a way to increase the map size after you have started, but I don't know how. Yoshi mentioned it in his mapmaking tutorials.

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Also, because of the random cliffs in the map, two of the mains have a little extra choke at their ramp then the others, since the cliffs are further extending their choke. Here's what I mean:

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^This ramp's texture does not seem as well blended as the others as well.

The last thing I noticed ingame, if you hold the 12 and the 6 watchtowers, you can spot a command center on either of the left gold expansions, but neither of the right ones. It seems the watchtowers need to be moved one grid to the right or have their vision range increased slightly. Also, while I am on the gold, I think having to kill two pairs of rocks to get to it make it a much bigger investment to take then it should. I understand that the rocks on the actual expansion is to prevent terran from floating to it, so I suggest you make the rocks that are actually on the expansion have less HP, so its not as much as an investment to take.



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[10:09 am]
NimoStar -- It can by playing the same map thousands of times. It is similar to AI speedrunning games
[02:30 am]
Symmetry -- I dreamed about that as a kid. The idea of a computer capable of analyzing a starcraft map and calculating the fastest possible way to hit the victory condition
[02:29 am]
Symmetry -- But can AI beat my custom maps?
[12:32 pm]
Oh_Man -- yea APM vs eAPM
[2026-9-22. : 8:48 am]
NimoStar -- plus most of the human APM is just spam clicking APM inflation
[2026-9-22. : 8:47 am]
NimoStar -- the thing with the "*12" thing is completely misleading. The AI isn't using two control groups, it can use each of those actions to command a single unit individually and issue different commands to each single unit.
[2026-9-22. : 8:06 am]
NudeRaider -- NudeRaider
NudeRaider shouted: Oh_Man Artosis hasn't caught on how devastating the perfect focus fire is. With the mutas he was like "the Mutas always seem to have less hp than against a human". But he didn't notice that the flock he had selected always just had one muta that was hurt. Same with the wraiths here. He's talking about how valks+wraith is gonna destroy Pluto's valks, then 5s later he's dumbfounded the human player's air is just gone and he never figured out why. And for some reason didn't even think to go back and look at the battle.
*Pluto's wraiths
[2026-9-22. : 8:05 am]
NudeRaider -- Oh_Man Artosis hasn't caught on how devastating the perfect focus fire is. With the mutas he was like "the Mutas always seem to have less hp than against a human". But he didn't notice that the flock he had selected always just had one muta that was hurt. Same with the wraiths here. He's talking about how valks+wraith is gonna destroy Pluto's valks, then 5s later he's dumbfounded the human player's air is just gone and he never figured out why. And for some reason didn't even think to go back and look at the battle.
[2026-9-22. : 2:18 am]
Oh_Man -- Close enuf
[2026-9-21. : 4:14 pm]
Vrael -- perhaps there is a small professional player trapped in a box in the server rack where pluto is running? hmm?
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