Diablo 1 (Topic)

I do stuff and thingies... Try widening and reducing the number of small nooks and crannies to correct the problem.

D I A B L O 1

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Thank goodness you've returned!
Much has changed since you lived here, my friend. All was peaceful until the dark riders came
and destroyed our village. Many were cut down where they stood, and those who took up arms were
slain or dragged away to become slaves - or worse. The church at the edge of town has been
desecrated and is being used for dark rituals. The screams that echo in the night are inhuman,
but some of our townsfolk may yet survive. Follow the path that lies between my tavern and the
blacksmith shop to find the church and save who you can.
Perhaps I can tell you more if we speak again. Good luck.

Gameplay:

Walk around with your Hero Unit (uh, how special...).
Buy Items in the Village called Tristram.
Meet Enemies inside the Dungeon.
Fight with a ~~turn based~~ unique real time System
Find Items and gain Experience while slaying the Creatures of Evil.
Increase your Strength, Dexterity, Magic and Vitality

Hero Classes:

Warrior
Rogue

Items:

61 Base Items
52 Prefixes (max. 1 per Base Item)
73 Suffixes (max. 1 per Base Item)
-> a few thousand possible items (= nearly 240k - unlogical ones)
prefixes and suffixes are more free than before. you can nearly find everything on everything (only damage%/armor% are sticked to weapon/armor)
Many "Unique Items" (not yet)
6 Potions
Wear a Helmet, an Armor, 2 Rings, 1 Amulett and a Weapon with or without a Shield
Carry additional Items within your Inventory
Repair your Items before they break. Every Item has its own Durability which can be decreased during a fight

Enemies:

88 different normal Enemies try to kill you in a 1 on 1 up to 4 on 1.
16 main Dungeons filled with different Enemies. Every "New Game" will create up to 8 different random Enemies in each Dungeon Level.

Changes from the original Diablo:

no Sorceror
less Spells
more useful Uniques
less Pre- and Suffixes
no Resistances
Singleplayer only
Items cannot be dropped
different Gameplay
3 difficulty modes in Singleplayer
maybe it will cause big lags (I have no experience with DC-systems that are insane huge)

Technical Details:

Singleplayer ~~in Multiplayer (battle.net/ipx/...)~~
Jungle - 256 x 256
many many Variables used in the DC Systems
Tons of Triggers
Player can change which values will be displayed in leaderboard/ore/gas amount
1 Item consist out of 2 DC values
15 variables that store the information about which monsters can appear in the dungeon levels
Strength, Dexterity, Magic, Vitality stats, item's durability will be displayed with mineral fields

Progress: (atm: >60.000 triggers)

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Finished Systems:
-Random Seed for the Quests ( == Original Diablo)
-Random Seed for the Monsters (placement is nearly Original, e.g. Zombie can only appear in level 1 and level 2, the difference is that different monster of equal types can be inside one level and the same monsters can appear in other dungeon levels, too)
-Requirements Check for equipped Items (you can wear it, but it has no effect on you)
-0 Durability of Items causes their Destruction
-Items, Prefixes, Suffixes have their effects
-Dexterity increases Armor Class
-Dexterity increases Chance to Hit
-Full Item name Output System
-Random Monster will be chosen which is defined by the Random Seed
(e.g.: in Dungeon Level 3 there appear 8 out of 26 possible Monsters; these 8 picked monsters are random every new game)
-Monster stats are loaded
-Monsters have a random amount of Hitpoins in their range of Hitpoins when they "spawn". (e.g. Zombie has 4-7 hp; One time it can have 4, the next one could have 7)
-Player's melee damage calculation (my multiplying method ftw ;P)
-Enemy display and "basic" creation in the "Arena"
-Chance to Hit calculation
-human attack triggers in the battle
-basic monster's attack triggers in the battle (3 of 5 attack behaviors)
-all damage consequences and possibilities (block, life/mana steal, critical, stun)
-stats, min. Damage, max. Damage, HP output in mineral fields
-xp calculation after killing an enemy
-random item can be given after killing a unit (depends on monster level, highest leveled monsters can drop everything)
-random item has a durability between 25% and 75% of the base DUR and +DUR%-Prefix
-inventory output triggers
-you can get a random gold amount after killing an enemy (range depends on dungeon level).
-you can swap items now (2-handed weapons cannot be swapped, if you wear a shield, atm)
-level up triggers
-attribute points (with class's max)
-max Health- and Manapoints (depends on the original fomulas)
-items have a "picture" (powerup which displays the type: weapon, armor, helm, ...)
-displaying the item values in grisworld's sell menu + sell triggers (chose with defiler: swarm = see value + name, move to item = sell, burrow = exit)
-NPC triggers (sell/repair/new game/heal)
-Durability output of equipped items
-new game triggers for normal difficulty and chose class
-HP and MP output in ore/gas during battle
-random placement of "Down to the next Level" in dungeons
-entering/leaving dungeon level triggers
-quest related triggers: The poisoned water supply & the curse of King Leoric
-~~battlefield movement with direct hero movement orders~~ WASD movement + melee attacks
-you can't walk into walls (both wall types)
-random enemy creation (1-4 random enemies at once with random IDs and different hp (within a range for its ID) on a random position on the battlefield)
-monster's got movement detection
-attack sounds, getting hit sounds, dieing sounds implemented (I will maybe add a system that delays the sounds to fit better)
-Experience and item/gold drops are calculated after every killed monster in battlefield
-arrows can hit 1 type of wall
-enemys shot arrows
-mouse position on map
-player shots arrows in the direction of the field where he orders his Zealot/Rogue to go (in which field your mouse is while giving order)
-arrows can hit targets (player can hit enemies, enemy can hit player)
-arrows are removed, if they leave the battlefield
-potions can be drunken
-fixed maxHP calculations with strange item effects
-maxHP/maxMP/Item+Stats Calculations only run when needed
-fixed all known bugs out of demo1
-potions can be sold by Pepin & Adria (originally it's Adria only, but I don't like walking that far

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-all healing & small rejuvenation potions can be bought at Pepin
-all mana & small rejuvenation potions can be bought at Adria
-normal enemies can drop potions
-player's death & death penalty triggers
-up to X units should spawn inside a dungeon representing a group of 1-4 monsters while the first monster determines the walking unit.

Currently working on:
setting up fights while walking by enemies inside the dungeon

The needed Screenshots that this map exists:
picture of pre alpha tristram (you can see payne's path out of his Diablo II project):

picture of my triggers (I learned to map like Tuxlar: scmdraft2 + notepad++ + modified version of tuxlar's macros [msg me, if you want that file OR you have a look here]):

(un)interesting stats for myself:

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Post has been edited 51 time(s), last time on Dec 22 2009, 1:27 pm by Ahli.

:payne:

Lol, you know what? If ever you need help, I'm there!

I'll let you finish your work before mine, so I can copy some triggers you'll have done (since it seems you're much better than me in triggering).
Is it okay?

Btw, the ruin path are kinda buggy for the vision, it's only because it uses High Ruin terrain, just switch these to Ruin terrain and you'll be fine.

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I hope this will live up to expectations!
I like how you think Ahli!

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Lol good luck. Hope you finish before SCII comes out.

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Lol good luck. Hope you finish before SCII comes out.

Or before D3 comes out

If this gets finished I'm sure it will be good.

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I do stuff and thingies... Try widening and reducing the number of small nooks and crannies to correct the problem.

I just thought and realized the best method to multiply unknown values within a known limit.

I combined 2 binary countoffs. One for the first variable and one for the second one.

Try to understand the triggers in the attached .txt.
Open it in notepad++ or wordpad.

HF understanding what I did.

I hope somebody can transfer that triggers into words and add it to the wiki.
I'm not able to write sentences that will make most people to understand what I try to teach.

~Ahli

Attachments:

Multiplying greater Values.txt
Hits: 25 Size: 57.1kb

Diablo was a fun game

Hope you finish it

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Why is it a turn based combat system? Is it just easier to control variables that way? (ie. durability)

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I believe you used binary in combination with expanded notation. For example, 247 x 312.

= (2^7 +2^6 +2^5+2^4+2^2+2^1+2^0)x(2^8+2^5+2^4+2^3)
Then when you run the triggers, you Foil it out basically.

Say the 247 slot is A and 312 is B

So when B is at least 2^8 (from the expanded 312 notation), you subtract 2^7 from 247, add 2^(7+8) to your sum value, and then in the next trigger since iLvl was not subtracted from, the 2^6 is subtracted from 247, and 2^(6+8) is added to the sum value. This continues down the line, then 2^8 is subtracted from the 312 value, and the process repeats for 2^5. The binary countoffs are simply to account for the different numbers. I'm pretty sure you had an "add" for every power of 2 between 0 and 15, and as long as the values never exceed 2^15 the system won't break. Wait, (2^15)-1. And then you used the Temp value (I think temp3 or w/e.) to add the values back in to repeat for each value of the expanded notation. In this case, after 2^8 cycles though, it re-adds the 247 and then cycles again with 2^5.

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Ahli

I just thought and realized the best method to multiply unknown values within a known limit.

I combined 2 binary countoffs. One for the first variable and one for the second one.

Try to understand the triggers in the attached .txt.
Open it in notepad++ or wordpad.

HF understanding what I did.

I hope somebody can transfer that triggers into words and add it to the wiki.
I'm not able to write sentences that will make most people to understand what I try to teach.

~Ahli

I haven't looked at it, but it sounds like you're doing something I already know of. Well, at least the method I'm thinking of is the most efficient one I've seen.

I made a map here. The factors are initialized in the first trigger. I also saw a slight variation done by spineshealth which breaks one of the factors down into its binary components and sets switches that represent each place. It's very nice because it eliminates the need for all the restore trigger groups, although it takes up switches.

Here's his post at blizzforums http://www.blizzforums.com/showpost.php?p=185910&postcount=63 with his calculator map

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Post has been edited 3 time(s), last time on Jun 3 2008, 5:52 am by devilesk.

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I do stuff and thingies... Try widening and reducing the number of small nooks and crannies to correct the problem.

@devilesk
Yes, I am doing exactly the same like in your attached map

. I just used higher limits for 1 value.
The strength of this system is that you are able to multiply 2 large numbers with pretty less triggers.

@vrael
yes. I just didn't know how to call that system.

I would like to see somebody adding that to the wiki because I did not know that method before and I figured it out myself. :ermm:

@stickynote
It's a turn based combat system because..... errrr I can come much closer to the original game. I'm using the original functions to calculate everything.
You could say it will be like a mixture out of diablo, final fantasy und pokemon.... (walking around and random enemies appear).
Maybe I will add timers for every action in the end to have a real time combat in the end (maybe multiple enemies, too). But first, I create the basic method.

With a not turn based method, it would be hard to implement all the weapons and the magic items. Or how would you implement +58% weapon damage?

But I need to change the unique items because the most original ones are much weaker than the best magical items you find. If you like to have some "special" unique items, maybe I will add them.

Atm I'm implementing the battle system: You are facing your enemy and there are mostly 4 free spaces between you and the monster. A warrior would simply select "attack" and move forward untill he stands in front of his Enemy and then he starts to deal damage. Later, if you have the "Teleport spell", you can teleport directly to the enemy and attack. But that costs Mana that can only be filled by potions and level ups.
Ranged units like Skeleton Archers or the Player with a Bow can attack all the time.

But this could be changed in the end, if I like to create a much more realistic battle scene. Then I could try to create an AI for the monsters, but I will see that later.
First the "simple" version of Diablo 1 has to be created or I will never finish it. ;P

Btw, maybe I will run into string issues. Can I modify the locations in the end to use 1 string or won't that work because different strings could be needed for starcraft to differentiate which location is ment? Or does starcraft identify them like units with their ID?

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Jun 3 2008, 12:13 pm by Ahli.

Thigh high affectionado

Now now, the whole challange of D1 was the fact that when you killed all the enemies, they stayed dead. How will this be challanging if you can level yourself up to 100 at the beginning off crappy monsters?

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Sure I didn't pop off on SCBW like I wanted to, but I won VRChat. Map maker for life.

I do stuff and thingies... Try widening and reducing the number of small nooks and crannies to correct the problem.

Already diablo 1 modified the gained experience. You cannot fight against the weak monsters all the time.
Every monster below your level will give less till no experience. In Diablo 1 that difference was 10 levels.
If a lvl 11 character killed a Zombie, he gained no experience.
But I think 10 levels are to much. I will lower that.

This is like, as you said, pokemon to an extent. That's awesome!!! Good luck finishing the map.

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Already diablo 1 modified the gained experience. You cannot fight against the weak monsters all the time.
Every monster below your level will give less till no experience. In Diablo 1 that difference was 10 levels.
If a lvl 11 character killed a Zombie, he gained no experience.
But I think 10 levels are to much. I will lower that.

I would simply increase the needed EXP to get to the next level...Realistically I don't think you wouldn't learn a thing or two killing even basic monsters, but after a while you would learn less of them.

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I do stuff and thingies... Try widening and reducing the number of small nooks and crannies to correct the problem.

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Ahli

Already diablo 1 modified the gained experience. You cannot fight against the weak monsters all the time.
Every monster below your level will give less till no experience. In Diablo 1 that difference was 10 levels.
If a lvl 11 character killed a Zombie, he gained no experience.
But I think 10 levels are to much. I will lower that.

I would simply increase the needed EXP to get to the next level...Realistically I don't think you wouldn't learn a thing or two killing even basic monsters, but after a while you would learn less of them.

I will use the original experience chart, I think.

This map is looking pwnsome... Any chance we could get an idea of a demo map for this?

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Out of curiosity, how do you expect to accomplish the hell/magma pit areas?

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I do stuff and thingies... Try widening and reducing the number of small nooks and crannies to correct the problem.

magma pit != hell
you saw the magma in the "caves".
The caves won't have magma in my map :bleh:

I've about 19k triggers atm, but some of them are just triggers which help me debugging and 13533 triggers display the enemy's hp in a mineral field (trigger duplicator made that possible).
Since this is singleplayer only, I can do that :-_-:

Just finished debugging all triggers I already made...

I hope some excellent terrainers would like to help me making some nice terrain.
But first I should finish the gameplay. ;P

@New-Guy
Yes, but first I should finish the biggest missing parts and debugging afterwards.
These would be:
-improved battle AI system (0%)
-some effects during the fight (0%)
-timers for the sounds in the fight (0%)
-level switching triggers (0%)
-repairing triggers (0%)
-healing triggers (90 %)
-potion triggers (0 %)
-experience system triggers (100%)
-level up triggers (100%)
-item switching triggers in the inventory (95%)
-stats output system (~80%)
-monster drop system (~50%)

And at least I found a fast and easy way to replace all the variables I used with the original unit names. Now I'm able to test the map after waiting 2 5 minutes ;P

Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on Jul 21 2008, 12:11 pm by Ahli.

For the magma, if you decide to do so, you could create and kill ultralisks. And, I would love to create the terrain for your map if you want me to. I just need a good picture or a thorough description, since I have not played Diablo before, and therefore would not know what the terrain should look like.

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