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Math Help!!!
Mar 25 2008, 5:20 am
By: Rantent  

Mar 25 2008, 5:20 am Rantent Post #1



Ok, so I have a rather tricky problem in my inorganic chemistry class, involving quantum spins of electrons, which essentially reduces down to computing aspects of a series.
Ni2+ has 6 valence electrons for it's 5 d orbitals. These electrons can either be in up/down spins in an orbital or two can go together as an up/down pair. Two cannot combine in the same orbital to form up/up or down/down pairs.
My job is to calculate the number of different pairings that can occur, and determine the sum of the spins in each pairing, (+1 = up spin, -1 = down spin.) as well as calculate the overall energy of the electron orbitals.
I have found the number of possible pairings that the electrons could have is 210, without violating any of the quantum rules. However, I can't seem to figure out how to calculate the sum of the spins or the overall energy. And was wondering if you guys could help. I'm rather apathetic, but I really don't want to resort to sketching out 210 combinations and counting the spins on each. :(

In order to calculate energy, each orbital (in which a maximum of two electrons can exist in) is labeled a relative energy level. the energies are 2,1,0,-1,-2. And to find the sum, one would (in a diagram) count up the number of electrons in each orbital and multiply them by the energy associated with that orbital.

I have calculated functions for determining these states for orbitals containing 1, 2, and 3 electrons, however I can't seem to find a clear pattern in the series' and have been unable to predict total spins and energies for 6 electrons.

Or if anyone knows the term symbols for nickel 2+ off hand, that would solve my problem immediately...


This is probably more of a programming problem than a straight math problem, but either way it is solving a system of variables.



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Mar 25 2008, 5:37 am Syphon Post #2



3F4



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Mar 25 2008, 8:12 am MillenniumArmy Post #3



I totally forgot all my chemistry, but can't you use Combinations/permutations in some way? That was my initial thought upon reading this thread but I could be wrong.



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Mar 25 2008, 9:05 am Paravin. Post #4



:|

I'm going to have to learn shit like this.. :(



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Mar 25 2008, 9:21 pm Rantent Post #5



Oh well. I eventually gave up trying to figure out an equation for the sequence, and simply wrote everything out by hand...
Only to realize after handing it in that I had used the wrong Tanabe-Sugano diagram, and all was lost.



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Mar 25 2008, 10:45 pm Centreri Post #6

Relatively ancient and inactive

A little bit more, and I could have a serious chance at solving this. Wait for DTBK to get on :P.



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Mar 26 2008, 12:39 am DT_Battlekruser Post #7



I don't think I have any understanding of the chemistry side of this...

-Six electrons in the set of five d-orbitals would, by Hund's Rule, first occupy each orbital once, resulting in five distinct combinations of one electron in each orbital, plus the remaining electron in the m=-2,-1,0,1, or 2 orbital. Ideally, it would occupy the orbital with the least energy (m=-2).

You're going to have to explain the chemistry of this to me.

And don't say "5 d orbitals".. it made me immediately think 5d6 :P

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Or if anyone knows the term symbols for nickel 2+ off hand, that would solve my problem immediately...

Ni2+ = [Ar]4s23d6 = 1s22s22p63s23p64s23d6

I guess if you're just calculating all possibilities of electrons spread over the six d-orbitals regardless of optimization.. it's just a bitchload of numerical statistics, which I hate.


Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Mar 26 2008, 12:46 am by DT_Battlekruser.



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Mar 26 2008, 2:42 pm Paravin. Post #8



Huston, we have a winner. :dontgetit:



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