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Tool or mod for bypassing the 1700 unit limit for 1.16.1?
Hi! I've been looking on the forum to find a tool or a mod for bypassing the 1700 unit limit for 1.16.1, but I can't find anything or maybe it's something that I'm missing. Could you point me to one if it exists?
Here's one from... neiv, of course - http://www.staredit.net/topic/16823/
https://github.com/neivv/teippi
Doesn't work with most other plugins though
https://github.com/neivv/teippi
Doesn't work with most other plugins though
Thank you!
As I have said in this post, there's a trick to run ai_debug along teippi. What I have done to make them run without an issue is I started a new Firegraft project, then I added ai_debug as the first plugin, with teippi following next, and then I saved the project as .exe. Like this:
If you add teippi first and ai_debug second, it won't work. This reminds me of messing out with Doom 2 mods in the same manner.
As I have said in this post, there's a trick to run ai_debug along teippi. What I have done to make them run without an issue is I started a new Firegraft project, then I added ai_debug as the first plugin, with teippi following next, and then I saved the project as .exe. Like this:
If you add teippi first and ai_debug second, it won't work. This reminds me of messing out with Doom 2 mods in the same manner.
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I think the debug release of teippi already includes the debug
Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Mar 14 2022, 1:56 pm by Nekron.
Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Mar 14 2022, 1:56 pm by Nekron.
I just checked, it doesn't. I pressed all keys 
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You mustve gotten the non-debug one then o_o should be possible to compile debug from github, neiv included some instructions
Yep, you're right, I've gotten the non-debug version. I've been trying to compile it for a couple of minute, but I keep getting errors for both methods, for Visual Studio and python. I'm gonna try on a different machine that uses the latest versions of everything, I hope it'll work.
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I got to compile the .qdp file. You were right, this teippi version includes ai_debug. I have gotten one issue, though, right before the creation of the .qdp, I got these warnings in the console:
I managed to fix all the previous errors that occurred before during building, but not this one.
I noticed when I use this .qdp with Firegraft and the run Starcraft, Starcraft keeps hanging from time to time for small maps like Andromeda, with only 200 units. But, if I'm running it with a map that has more than 1000 units, the game starts lagging.
If I'm running it with Chaoslauncher, with more than 1000 units, the game crashes.
This behaviour never happened with before with the previous versions of teippi and ai_debug.
Do you think those warnings introduced the hanging and lagging of the game?
I attached the file below.
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Visual Studio Community 2015 Update 3 Warnings
I managed to fix all the previous errors that occurred before during building, but not this one.
I noticed when I use this .qdp with Firegraft and the run Starcraft, Starcraft keeps hanging from time to time for small maps like Andromeda, with only 200 units. But, if I'm running it with a map that has more than 1000 units, the game starts lagging.
If I'm running it with Chaoslauncher, with more than 1000 units, the game crashes.
This behaviour never happened with before with the previous versions of teippi and ai_debug.
Do you think those warnings introduced the hanging and lagging of the game?
I attached the file below.
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I found this build stashed away on my hard drive, you can take a look if it's any better; I think lag is expected with the dev release (depending on your machine), though I haven't really run into any with such low unit / sprite numbers as you're mentioning.
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Thanks! "teippi_dev.qdp" did the trick! It works as expected with both Firegraft and Chaoslauncher.
I tested "teippi debug.qdp" on a PC way way stronger than mine and it happened the same. If the missing "freetype26d.pdb" (I have no idea how to generate it) is not the culprit for the hang/lag, then it's either something wrong with my Visual Studio's settings (which might be, since I'm new to compiling programs) or something might be wrong with the teippi source, or, as you pointed out, the PC.
Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on Mar 15 2022, 10:53 am by NiceNowIHaveAName.
I tested "teippi debug.qdp" on a PC way way stronger than mine and it happened the same. If the missing "freetype26d.pdb" (I have no idea how to generate it) is not the culprit for the hang/lag, then it's either something wrong with my Visual Studio's settings (which might be, since I'm new to compiling programs) or something might be wrong with the teippi source, or, as you pointed out, the PC.
Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on Mar 15 2022, 10:53 am by NiceNowIHaveAName.
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I suppose if I were to compile the project on the other PC, the results might've been different.
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I tried to map out all the commands of "teippi debug.qdp" (most of the commands apply to "ai_debug.qdp", as well) based on these 2 files:
scconsole.cpp
genericconsole.cpp
I tested the commands out only with "teippi_dev.qdp", though.
There are some commands that I couldn't figure out. You'll find them along the other commands. If you have any idea about how they work, let me know, and I'll adjust the post.
Any of you know why I get "Failed to get ImageSize" below when I'm trying to link to an imgur image?
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The debug info is controlled through console that can be opened with the "~" key.
Some of the commands descriptions was taken from here.
The commands are ordered the same as they are presented in the help prompt:
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spawn (unit name <string> or hexadecimal_id <number hexadecimal>) (amount <number>) (player_id <number>)
color bg (value <number decimal or hexadecimal>)
color text (value <number decimal or hexadecimal>)
color own (value <number decimal or hexadecimal>)
color border (value <number decimal or hexadecimal>)
color typo (value <number decimal or hexadecimal>)
color fail (value <number decimal or hexadecimal>)
crash
quit
exit
cls
tcr (trigger check rate <number>)
trigger_speed
int3
term
terminate
echo (value <string>)
pid
help
aiscript count
aiscript info (player_id <number>) - the player must be a CPU player
gsw (value <number>)
sleep (value <number>)
cmds
heal
kill
give
vis
u
u ai
u flags ["v"]
u id
u ("f"/"find") (lookup_id <number hexadecimal>)
unit
supplymax
self
airegion
aireg
player
money
money (player_id <number>)
money set (player_id <number>) (minerals <number>) (gas <number>)
resources
supply
supply (player_id <number>)
frame
pause
show nothing
show fps
show frame
show regions
show locations
show paths
show collision
show coords
show range
show info
show bullets
show resareas
show ai
show ai full
show ai simple
show ai named
show ai raw
show ai units
show ai guards
show ai player (player_id <number>)
show ai player all
show orders all
show orders selected
dc
dc? (unit_name <string> or hex_id <number hex>) (player_id <number>)
dc; (unit_name <string> or hex_id <number hex>) (player_id <number>)
dc;;
It seems to be more to the dc command, but I don't know how it all works
grid
test -1
test all (value <number>) (repeat <number>)
test (begin_id <number>) (end_id <number>) (repeat <number>)
test ai_tgtprio
ais_exec (player_id <number>) (bytes <number not sure if hex or binary>)
Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on Mar 19 2022, 12:33 pm by NiceNowIHaveAName.
scconsole.cpp
genericconsole.cpp
I tested the commands out only with "teippi_dev.qdp", though.
There are some commands that I couldn't figure out. You'll find them along the other commands. If you have any idea about how they work, let me know, and I'll adjust the post.
Any of you know why I get "Failed to get ImageSize" below when I'm trying to link to an imgur image?
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() - is used for mandatory values
[] - is used for optional values
<> - value type
Example: number, number decimal, number hexadecimal, string
"number" is the same as "number decimal"
"..." - type what's exactly between the quotes without the quotes
[] - is used for optional values
<> - value type
Example: number, number decimal, number hexadecimal, string
"number" is the same as "number decimal"
"..." - type what's exactly between the quotes without the quotes
The debug info is controlled through console that can be opened with the "~" key.
Some of the commands descriptions was taken from here.
The commands are ordered the same as they are presented in the help prompt:
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spawn (unit name <string> or hexadecimal_id <number hexadecimal>) (amount <number>) (player_id <number>)
Spawn a specific amount of units for a certain player
Example:
spawn probe 10 1 - spawns 10 probes for the player with the id of 1
spawn 3d 10 1 - spawns 10 dark templars for the player with the id of 1
It doesn't work for units that have a 2 word string, for example "dark templar". Instead, you have to use the hexadecimal_id for "dark templar", which is "3d". The hexadecimal_id is derived from the decimal_id of the unit, which for "dark templar" is 61. This 61 value can be found in DatEdit, SCMDraft 2, ChkDraft and some other tools
Every time you use a 2 word string, a suggestion gets printed showing both the name of the unit and its hexadecimal_id
Example:
spawn probe 10 1 - spawns 10 probes for the player with the id of 1
spawn 3d 10 1 - spawns 10 dark templars for the player with the id of 1
It doesn't work for units that have a 2 word string, for example "dark templar". Instead, you have to use the hexadecimal_id for "dark templar", which is "3d". The hexadecimal_id is derived from the decimal_id of the unit, which for "dark templar" is 61. This 61 value can be found in DatEdit, SCMDraft 2, ChkDraft and some other tools
Every time you use a 2 word string, a suggestion gets printed showing both the name of the unit and its hexadecimal_id
color bg (value <number decimal or hexadecimal>)
Sets console background color
Example:
color bg 255
color bg d1
Example:
color bg 255
color bg d1
color text (value <number decimal or hexadecimal>)
Sets help font color
Example:
color text 255
color text d1
Example:
color text 255
color text d1
color own (value <number decimal or hexadecimal>)
Sets command font color
Example:
color own bb
Example:
color own bb
color border (value <number decimal or hexadecimal>)
Sets console border color
Example:
color border 255
Example:
color border 255
color typo (value <number decimal or hexadecimal>)
Sets typo font color
Example:
color typo 255
Example:
color typo 255
color fail (value <number decimal or hexadecimal>)
Sets fail font color
Example:
color fail 70
Example:
color fail 70
crash
Crashes the game
quit
Exits the game
exit
Same as quit
cls
Clears the console display
tcr (trigger check rate <number>)
I'm not sure what this does, but I think the value it takes is expressed as milliseconds
Example:
tcr 100
Example:
tcr 100
trigger_speed
Same as tcr
int3
I think it exits the game in a different manner than quit
term
Same as quit
terminate
Same as quit
echo (value <string>)
Prints a given string to console
Example:
echo am I doing it right?
Example:
echo am I doing it right?
pid
Show Starcraft's process id
help
Prints help to console
aiscript count
Prints all the AI scripts on the map, I think
aiscript info (player_id <number>) - the player must be a CPU player
Prints information related to AI scripts
Example:
aiscript info 1 - displays information for each AI script player 1 has
Example:
aiscript info 1 - displays information for each AI script player 1 has
gsw (value <number>)
Sets the game to wait *about* (value <number>) milliseconds between frames. Slowest working value is around 150, holding down the + key will go even faster than "gsw 0"
Example:
gsw 42 - runs game at the fastest speed
Example:
gsw 42 - runs game at the fastest speed
sleep (value <number>)
Freezes the game for an amount of milliseconds
Example:
sleep 5000 - freezes the game for 5 seconds
Example:
sleep 5000 - freezes the game for 5 seconds
cmds
Same as help
heal
Select at least a unit/building (own/enemy/neutral) and type heal to restore its full health
kill
Select at least a unit/building (own/enemy/neutral) and type kill to kill/destroy it
give
Select a unit/building, not yours, and type "give" (unit's color won't change when it will become yours) for it to become yours
vis
Reveals AI's visibility (perhaps all players' visibility, since I haven't tested it with other human players) under the Fog of War
u
Select a unit and then type "u" to see options
Options:
Options:
u ai
Select a CPU's unit and type "u ai"
u flags ["v"]
Select a unit and type the command/s to shows related flags about a unit
Examples:
u flags
u flags v
Examples:
u flags
u flags v
u id
Select a unit and type the command to show a unit's id and its lookup_id
Example of results that might get displayed:
Unit id: 9a, lookup id: 0000003e
Example of results that might get displayed:
Unit id: 9a, lookup id: 0000003e
u ("f"/"find") (lookup_id <number hexadecimal>)
Use the lookup_id value provided by "u id" to find the unit behind the value on the map. Once the command is triggered, it jumps on the map to the unit's location.
Example:
The example for for "u id" above has "0000003e" as the lookup_id, hence we can use:
u find 3e
or
u f 3e
Example:
The example for for "u id" above has "0000003e" as the lookup_id, hence we can use:
u find 3e
or
u f 3e
unit
Same as u
supplymax
Sets your supply to half of a given value
Example:
supplymax 600 - sets your supply to 300
Example:
supplymax 600 - sets your supply to 300
self
Prints to console the game number
It shows different things for, I think, when you're playing alone or when you're in a network game
It shows different things for, I think, when you're playing alone or when you're in a network game
airegion
airegion (player_id <number>) (region code <number hexadecimal>)
Displays the state and the flags that an air region has for a player (I think it has to be CPU player)
Before using airegion, type "show regions" in the console.
Example:
airegion 2 c5 - c5 is not the number in the parentheses. See picture:
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Displays the state and the flags that an air region has for a player (I think it has to be CPU player)
Before using airegion, type "show regions" in the console.
Example:
airegion 2 c5 - c5 is not the number in the parentheses. See picture:
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aireg
Same as airegion
player
Select a player's unit/building and type "player" to print the ID of the respective player
money
Prints your minerals and gas
money (player_id <number>)
Prints a player's minerals and gas
money set (player_id <number>) (minerals <number>) (gas <number>)
Gives a player resources
Example:
money set 0 500 1000 - gives 500 minerals and 1000 gas to player 0
Example:
money set 0 500 1000 - gives 500 minerals and 1000 gas to player 0
resources
Same as money
supply
Select a player's unit and type supply to see that player's supply
supply (player_id <number>)
Type "supply" along with a player's id
Example:
supply 0
Example:
supply 0
frame
Prints the frame count
pause
Pauses / unpauses the game
show nothing
Hides any info on the screen related to "show"
show fps
Shows frames per second in the top right side of the screen
show frame
Shows frame count in the top right side of the screen
show regions
Shows the pathfinding regions. Useful with "show ai player (player_id <number>)", which shows extra info for each region
show locations
Draws location borders on the screen
show paths
Draws the paths of the units on the screen
show collision
Draws the collision boxes of the units as a rectangle
show coords
Shows different kinds of coordinates (game, mouse, screen) in the top right side of the screen
show range
Draws an *approximation* of a unit's range as a circle. BW's distance algorithm causes the range to be more of a 12-gon than a circle, so the shown circle is not perfect representation
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Source
show info
Show different kind of info (units, bullets, sprites, images) in the top right side of the screen
show bullets
Shows bullets on impact as rectangles on the screen. Attack a unit to see it in action
show resareas
Shows the base resource areas, which are locations the AI will be able to expand to
show ai
(Abbreviation sai)
Toggles the main debug output on/off. Shows the request queue of AI players in the top left corner, the AI will always only look at the first request on the queue until it can start working on it, or discard it completely
Toggles the main debug output on/off. Shows the request queue of AI players in the top left corner, the AI will always only look at the first request on the queue until it can start working on it, or discard it completely
show ai full
Show all AI info
show ai simple
Turns off "show ai full"
show ai named
Shows named AI
show ai raw
Turns off "show ai named"
show ai units
Abbreviation saiu)
Draws lines from each AI unit to their related location. For workers and buildings the line shows their town, for military it shows the current region they are allocated to, and guards show their home point
Draws lines from each AI unit to their related location. For workers and buildings the line shows their town, for military it shows the current region they are allocated to, and guards show their home point
show ai guards
(Abbreviation saig)
Shows guard positions, for both alive guards and ones that the AI tries to build
Shows guard positions, for both alive guards and ones that the AI tries to build
show ai player (player_id <number>)
Abbreviation saip (player id <number>))
Limits debug info to specific player and shows region info of a player. The player_id is 0-based, you can also use "player" command to show what player owns the currently selected unit
Limits debug info to specific player and shows region info of a player. The player_id is 0-based, you can also use "player" command to show what player owns the currently selected unit
show ai player all
Reverts "show ai player (player_id <number>)"
show orders all
Shows the orders of all the units on the map
show orders selected
Shows the orders of the currently selected unit
dc
dc = death counter
Prints this:
dc["?"|";"] <unit name or hex id> [player id, player id, ...]
Prints this:
dc["?"|";"] <unit name or hex id> [player id, player id, ...]
dc? (unit_name <string> or hex_id <number hex>) (player_id <number>)
Prints the death counter of a unit for a specific player
dc; (unit_name <string> or hex_id <number hex>) (player_id <number>)
No idea what it does
dc;;
Death counter clear (doesn't seem to work)
It seems to be more to the dc command, but I don't know how it all works
grid
Creates a grid on the screen providing a width, height and a color
grid ("+"|"-") w <number> [h <number>] [color <number decimal or hexadecimal>]
Example:
grid + 10 10 0 - draws a grid using 10 by 10 squares of beige color
grid - 10 10 - removes the previously created grid
grid ("+"|"-") w <number> [h <number>] [color <number decimal or hexadecimal>]
Example:
grid + 10 10 0 - draws a grid using 10 by 10 squares of beige color
grid - 10 10 - removes the previously created grid
test -1
Print how to use test. You must be in an on-going game for this to work
test all (value <number>) (repeat <number>)
test (begin_id <number>) (end_id <number>) (repeat <number>)
Not sure how these work
test ai_tgtprio
No idea what this does
ais_exec (player_id <number>) (bytes <number not sure if hex or binary>)
Not sure what this does
Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on Mar 19 2022, 12:33 pm by NiceNowIHaveAName.
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