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[2017-4-13. : 8:16 pm] KrayZee -- LanthanideLanthanide shouted: you have a very sheltered view of how the world works In fact, I wasn't even surprised one bit Clinton lost.[2017-4-13. : 8:16 pm] Lanthanide -- except you can be racist, but *less* racist than the prevailing culture, and by that standard you should be judged in a modern frame as 'good'[2017-4-13. : 8:15 pm] Zoan -- So don't just label "This president == bad," but "This part of this president == bad"[2017-4-13. : 8:15 pm] Lanthanide -- KrayZeeKrayZee shouted: Lanthanide No, it's not short-sighted. If racism is considered 'normal' in those particular eras doesn't necessarily reflect how modern historians view them in today's world. actually modern historians do exactly what I just said - they view a culture by the standards of the time. They don't impose modern views and make judgements (or try not to do that as much as possible)[2017-4-13. : 8:15 pm] Zoan -- I think racist presidents from the past are bad with respect to their racist values, but some of the other things they did might not be necessarily bad.[2017-4-13. : 8:15 pm] KrayZee -- LanthanideLanthanide shouted: so you expect a racist culture, to elect someone who is not racist, to lead them all to a greater future? No, of course not.[2017-4-13. : 8:14 pm] Lanthanide -- so you expect a racist culture, to elect someone who is not racist, to lead them all to a greater future?[2017-4-13. : 8:13 pm] KrayZee -- If they haven't been renamed yet, there are considerations renaming all schools that are named after slave owners.[2017-4-13. : 8:10 pm] KrayZee -- Regardless of how long ago the events took place, our judgments will be present. For example, we're replacing Andrew Jackson on the $20 bill and apparently some schools who even had names like George Washington had to be renamed.[2017-4-13. : 8:07 pm] KrayZee -- LanthanideLanthanide shouted: *everyone* was racist, it was the prevailing social construct, so acting like a president is somehow bad for reflecting the public opinion at the time is rather short-sighted No, it's not short-sighted. If racism is considered 'normal' in those particular eras doesn't necessarily reflect how modern historians view them in today's world.[2017-4-13. : 7:52 pm] Lanthanide -- *everyone* was racist, it was the prevailing social construct, so acting like a president is somehow bad for reflecting the public opinion at the time is rather short-sighted[2017-4-13. : 7:51 pm] Lanthanide -- KrayZeeKrayZee shouted: I'm actually curious how many Donald Trumps the US has elected in the past 240 years. There's a lot of racists, including people such as Andrew Jackson, Harry Truman approved dropping nukes, and so on. Andrew Johnson said "This is a country for white men, and by God, as long as I am President, it shall be a government for white men. Everyone would, and must, admit that the white race is superior to the black." they were simply products of their time; arguably Trump is too (from the anti-establishment angle)[2017-4-13. : 7:45 pm] Corbo -- VraelVrael shouted: CORBO U WANNA FITE? BRING IT ON, BUTTMAN WELL FUCK YOU TOO, BATMAN[2017-4-13. : 7:32 pm] KrayZee -- Saying he isn't racist is like saying he isn't sexist against women.[2017-4-13. : 7:29 pm] Zoan -- KrayZeeKrayZee shouted: If you are, I'm not going to bother talking to you about it. :l I feel the same way.[2017-4-13. : 7:26 pm] KrayZee -- ZoanZoan shouted: KrayZee wtf, Trump isn't racist though LOL You can't be serious.[2017-4-13. : 7:23 pm] Matt.- -- Calling someone racist doesn't make them racist. It also is a non-argument[2017-4-13. : 7:22 pm] Zoan -- AshamedAshamed shouted: US just dropped a really big bomb in Afghanistan... Not sure what to think. Seems to me everything Mr Trump campaigned against was a big lie ha While he was campaigning he said he'd be tough on ISIS. How is this not keeping in line with campaign promises.[2017-4-13. : 7:21 pm] Zoan -- KrayZeeKrayZee shouted: I'm actually curious how many Donald Trumps the US has elected in the past 240 years. There's a lot of racists, including people such as Andrew Jackson, Harry Truman approved dropping nukes, and so on. Andrew Johnson said "This is a country for white men, and by God, as long as I am President, it shall be a government for white men. Everyone would, and must, admit that the white race is superior to the black." wtf, Trump isn't racist though LOL[2017-4-13. : 7:13 pm] KrayZee -- I'm more than certain that there are far more racist presidents than those who are not.[2017-4-13. : 7:06 pm] KrayZee -- I'm actually curious how many Donald Trumps the US has elected in the past 240 years. There's a lot of racists, including people such as Andrew Jackson, Harry Truman approved dropping nukes, and so on. Andrew Johnson said "This is a country for white men, and by God, as long as I am President, it shall be a government for white men. Everyone would, and must, admit that the white race is superior to the black."[2017-4-13. : 7:02 pm] KrayZee -- AshamedAshamed shouted: US just dropped a really big bomb in Afghanistan... Not sure what to think. Seems to me everything Mr Trump campaigned against was a big lie ha And once the nukes are dropped on cities, he seems to fulfill his ideas about nukes.[2017-4-13. : 6:33 pm] Pr0nogo -- CorboCorbo shouted: Nah. I would probably start with pretentious idiots like you and then start with assholes like me. At least assholes have some intelligence. actually kill yourself lmao[2017-4-13. : 5:43 pm] Corbo -- AshamedAshamed shouted: US just dropped a really big bomb in Afghanistan... Not sure what to think. Seems to me everything Mr Trump campaigned against was a big lie ha noshit[2017-4-13. : 5:39 pm] Ashamed -- US just dropped a really big bomb in Afghanistan... Not sure what to think. Seems to me everything Mr Trump campaigned against was a big lie ha[2017-4-13. : 5:23 pm] Corbo -- Nah. I would probably start with pretentious idiots like you and then start with assholes like me. At least assholes have some intelligence.[2017-4-13. : 5:03 pm] jjf28 -- TiKelsTiKels shouted: You have to have discretion on something like that corbo. If you have the flu and go outside you're putting people's life at risk. The flu kills like bazillions Have you guys heard about the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide?[2017-4-13. : 4:12 pm] Dem0n -- ZoanZoan shouted: Corbo but then you would kill yourself C|X^D very rekt[2017-4-13. : 3:59 pm] Zoan -- KrayZeeKrayZee shouted: Does anyone here remember Centreri? Remember what he would do to the world if he's a world leader? Everyone takes a test, and those who fail will be killed. What if ur just having a bad day lul[2017-4-13. : 3:56 pm] Zoan -- CorboCorbo shouted: KrayZee KrayZee Ahli imo even stupid people have their function in a society. I would just instakill everyone thay puts others life at risk in any way. but then you would kill yourself C|X^D[2017-4-13. : 2:05 pm] TiKels -- You have to have discretion on something like that corbo. If you have the flu and go outside you're putting people's life at risk. The flu kills like bazillions[2017-4-13. : 1:48 pm] Corbo -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: Corbo you drive a car, you already put others at risk. ok, intentionally put life or others at risk.[2017-4-13. : 1:43 pm] TiKels -- Dem0nDem0n shouted: How the fuck do you play Dark Souls I'm late on the response but you git gud[2017-4-13. : 1:41 pm] NudeRaider -- CorboCorbo shouted: KrayZee KrayZee Ahli imo even stupid people have their function in a society. I would just instakill everyone thay puts others life at risk in any way. you drive a car, you already put others at risk.[2017-4-13. : 12:30 pm] Corbo -- KrayZeeKrayZee shouted: Does anyone here remember Centreri? Remember what he would do to the world if he's a world leader? Everyone takes a test, and those who fail will be killed. KrayZeeKrayZee shouted: Apparently there's an upcoming movie about that... AhliAhli shouted: the world would be crueler, but a lot more efficient, tbh imo even stupid people have their function in a society. I would just instakill everyone thay puts others life at risk in any way.[2017-4-13. : 11:07 am] jjf28 -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Still busted, gotta fix it in like 10 places to do it right LMAO let me know when you're done please ![]() [2017-4-13. : 6:29 am] KrayZee -- Does anyone here remember Centreri? Remember what he would do to the world if he's a world leader? Everyone takes a test, and those who fail will be killed.[2017-4-13. : 5:57 am] NudeRaider -- JackJack shouted: Ashamed Ubuntu is based off Debian, not the other way around. I bet he is ashamed.[2017-4-13. : 5:55 am] NudeRaider -- AshamedAshamed shouted: You can still use it for everything - but if you kinda wanna force yourself. Then yeah I would suggest just a straight install dont do the duel.. You will end up going back to the darkside ha. so true... lol[2017-4-13. : 5:29 am] Jack -- AshamedAshamed shouted: Mint is A distro built off of Debian which Debian is based off Ubuntu... So I tend to just run Ubuntu.. But Mint is pretty popular. Ubuntu is based off Debian, not the other way around. |