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[2018-7-23. : 10:55 pm]  Suicidal Insanity -- KrayZeeKrayZee shouted: Suicidal Insanity It's so hot that when you put in a DVD of Ice Age and then it plays Waterworld. haha nice[2018-7-23. : 10:48 pm]  KrayZee -- Suicidal InsanitySuicidal Insanity shouted: Suicidal Insanity Think Ill watch Ice Age xD It's so hot that when you put in a DVD of Ice Age and then it plays Waterworld.[2018-7-23. : 10:32 pm] Wormer -- If the map doesn't have that special macro triggers file in mpq (means you didn't use that) there is an option to reverse engineer everything you have into macro triggers once. No way back though[2018-7-23. : 10:31 pm] Wormer -- if triggers don't match due to the fact that you updated your code it just recompiles[2018-7-23. : 10:30 pm] Wormer -- WormerWormer shouted: the idea is simple: if you write macro triggers you don't touch normal triggers. If during compilation it detects that triggers in the map doesn't match generated triggers then it gives a warning that all external edits are gonna be lost actually it does the check on the map load -- if triggers don't match macro triggers code then it gives this warning[2018-7-23. : 10:29 pm] Wormer -- the idea is simple: if you write macro triggers you don't touch normal triggers. If during compilation it detects that triggers in the map doesn't match generated triggers then it gives a warning that all external edits are gonna be lost[2018-7-23. : 10:27 pm] jjf28 -- WormerWormer shouted: that is the long term goal to have that code stored along with the map and compile into triggers independently from any editor mm, so I guess we need that changes-detected-ask-to-refresh-map code  [2018-7-23. : 10:26 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- One of the void* params actually gives you access to the map MPQ class, but its not documented [2018-7-23. : 10:26 pm] Wormer -- that is the long term goal to have that code stored along with the map and compile into triggers independently from any editor[2018-7-23. : 10:25 pm] Wormer -- ultimately I need something more a plugin can do: I need to store the macro triggers code in a text file with predefined name inside mpq[2018-7-23. : 10:24 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- I offered to make a V2 interface for him but he said he didn't have the time  [2018-7-23. : 10:23 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- But trgk's reverse engineered sample almost is better, because it avoids having to make sure the linker flags match[2018-7-23. : 10:20 pm] jjf28 -- I think trgk just reverse-engineered the plugin interface though; is it actually documented anywhere?[2018-7-23. : 10:18 pm] Wormer -- Suicidal InsanitySuicidal Insanity shouted: Just make a trigger plugin, then you can use string API and dump trigger data in binary Text trigger editor for SCMD released as a plugin?[2018-7-23. : 10:14 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- Just make a trigger plugin, then you can use string API and dump trigger data in binary [2018-7-23. : 10:13 pm] Wormer -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: I have some code that another app could use to send me a new TRIG and/or STR section, though you would have to build the new STR section yourself if we went that route that is a way to go, but first things first I don't want to mess up with str and other stuff -- gonna generate simple "raw triggers format" consisting of raw actions and conditions only[2018-7-23. : 10:12 pm] Wormer -- Actually I plan to support trigger generation in various popular formats: scmdraft, chkdraft, binary format maybe[2018-7-23. : 10:11 pm] jjf28 -- I have some code that another app could use to send me a new TRIG and/or STR section, though you would have to build the new STR section yourself if we went that route[2018-7-23. : 10:09 pm] Wormer -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: that's really what you're doing besides with strings xD strings would be the problem[2018-7-23. : 10:08 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- WormerWormer shouted: jjf28 how does Starcraft react to this? is it valid to have a player with value >1 ? the talk on the eud emulator may include the code. Pretty sure it does if (! player) continue[2018-7-23. : 10:08 pm] Wormer -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: tbh why don't you just give me a binary trigger section? omg, can do  haha[2018-7-23. : 10:07 pm] Wormer -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: Wormer ya, I don't see any reason why you'd need to use anything but 0 or 1 for player numbers how does Starcraft react to this? is it valid to have a player with value >1 ?[2018-7-23. : 10:05 pm] Wormer -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: Wormer ya the text trigs for the same are up top screw functional trigger format use this instead (I personally would prefer flags up top, but up to you)[2018-7-23. : 10:05 pm] jjf28 -- though I plan to use it for tracking meta-data http://www.staredit.net/topic/16714/  [2018-7-23. : 10:03 pm] jjf28 -- WormerWormer shouted: jjf28 but these are only flags, I was surprised how chk format uses bytes for players ya, I don't see any reason why you'd need to use anything but 0 or 1 for player numbers[2018-7-23. : 10:01 pm] Wormer -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: Wormer https://puu.sh/B1TD5/c3c7332702.png but these are only flags, I was surprised how chk format uses bytes for players[2018-7-23. : 10:01 pm] jjf28 -- WormerWormer shouted: jjf28 is it in text? ya the text trigs for the same are up top [2018-7-23. : 10:00 pm] jjf28 -- http://www.staredit.net/sc1db/file/2963/ this utility did the string number defragmenting, the utility has lots of legacy problems though and SI no longer crashes on bad strings though so I don't recommend it[2018-7-23. : 10:00 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- WormerWormer shouted: Suicidal Insanity what happens if you specify a number >1 for a player? Let me check the source [2018-7-23. : 10:00 pm] Wormer -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: Wormer https://puu.sh/B1TD5/c3c7332702.png is it in text? [2018-7-23. : 9:59 pm] jjf28 -- WormerWormer shouted: Suicidal Insanity what happens if you specify a number >1 for a player? https://puu.sh/B1TD5/c3c7332702.png[2018-7-23. : 9:58 pm] Wormer -- Suicidal InsanitySuicidal Insanity shouted: Wormer Pretty sure they are all known what happens if you specify a number >1 for a player?[2018-7-23. : 9:58 pm] jjf28 -- WormerWormer shouted: jjf28 Can it change string # in the process? if it's the case, you need to edit all triggers that use that string to specify the new # no, it keeps the same string numbers, defragmenting on that level of string numbers is also something I have code for, but it's not something I do when regularly processing string tables[2018-7-23. : 9:57 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- WormerWormer shouted: Just realized I want Raw Players too to fill for random trigger owners data Pretty sure they are all known[2018-7-23. : 9:57 pm] Wormer -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: what I mean by jjf28 is that I don't try to keep the current string section structure and allow fragmenting and such to do so, every recompile is a de-fragment that loses what the map considers unused string junk Can it change string # in the process? if it's the case, you need to edit all triggers that use that string to specify the new #[2018-7-23. : 9:55 pm] jjf28 -- what I mean by jjf28jjf28 shouted: mm, whenever a string is added, removed, or changed, I go and recompile the string section; I've always kinda hated doing this, but trying to edit strings in-place is insanity is that I don't try to keep the current string section structure and allow fragmenting and such to do so, every recompile is a de-fragment that loses what the map considers unused string junk[2018-7-23. : 9:54 pm] Wormer -- Just realized I want Raw Players too to fill for random trigger owners data [2018-7-23. : 9:52 pm] jjf28 -- I'm building a new TRIG and STR section that get hot-swapped for the current[2018-7-23. : 9:51 pm] jjf28 -- well no strings are added, changed, or removed until compilation finishes[2018-7-23. : 9:47 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- Well, if you parse 500K text triggers, and every action that touches a sstring triggers a recompile, that's a bunch of sub 10ms calls[2018-7-23. : 9:45 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- I store the string data in memory in a completely custom format. And only dump it into flat data during save[2018-7-23. : 9:43 pm] jjf28 -- mm, whenever a string is added, removed, or changed, I go and recompile the string section; I've always kinda hated doing this, but trying to edit strings in-place is insanity[2018-7-23. : 9:42 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- So if you don't touch any strings the strings are untouched (but realigned), but if you add / delete strings it changes[2018-7-23. : 9:41 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- Although actually that may be incorrect. It may save strings which have reference count of 0, but it will overwrite them if you add a new string for any reason[2018-7-23. : 9:39 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- Ya, it iterates other the array, anything with reference count == 0 is skipped[2018-7-23. : 9:38 pm] jjf28 -- I'm assuming when you go to re-write the string section anything not recognized as a used string in the map is lost, right?[2018-7-23. : 9:34 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- Suicidal InsanitySuicidal Insanity shouted: 11 PM here, still too hot Think Ill watch Ice Age xD [2018-7-23. : 9:34 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- WormerWormer shouted: Suicidal Insanity I like that because after re-save the "invalid data" won't be rewritten with anything if I'm getting this right Classic trigedit only touches data if you edit the trigger line itself. Otherwise its untouched. Text trigedit rewrites everything, so you lose everything that it doesn't understand |
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