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[2014-9-27. : 11:03 pm] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- dunno, you actually explained it. I just sort of said some stuff and then gave the answer[2014-9-27. : 11:02 pm] Jack -- You don't have to but you can perform boolean algebra optimizations to make that a smaller expression now.[2014-9-27. : 11:02 pm] Jack -- First row, (P . Q . R). Second row, (P . Q . ~R). Fifth row, (~P . Q . R). Then you just OR those together, which gives you (P . Q . R) + (P . Q . ~R) + (~P . Q . R) = Value[2014-9-27. : 11:01 pm] Jack -- In your truth table, the true outputs are fewer than the falses, so we use those.[2014-9-27. : 10:53 pm] Jack -- Anyway demon you only have to worry about the smallest of (number of true outputs) or (number of false outputs)[2014-9-27. : 10:53 pm] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- Oh. No, he didn't mean outputs. He meant combinations of inputs[2014-9-27. : 10:53 pm] Jack -- Dem0nDem0n shouted: there are 3 variables, so there are 8 different outputs, but i don't know how to make all of those into a circuit Dem0n did[2014-9-27. : 10:52 pm] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- JackJack shouted: There's only one output there Who said there wasn't?[2014-9-27. : 10:31 pm] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- Value= (P and Q and R) or (P and Q and not-R) or (not-P and Q and R), then you just simplify that[2014-9-27. : 10:29 pm] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- lol thats funny, it's like the inverse of one I randomly typed in my example[2014-9-27. : 10:29 pm] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- Both are random examples. You can use either method for any truth table, it's just fewer expressions this way so it should be simpler to simplify[2014-9-27. : 10:27 pm] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- here is what I mean ... And then you just simplify the expression 'out = ' for either one[2014-9-27. : 10:24 pm] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- if there are fewer 0s, you list all the combinations like if not a and b and c = 0, you'd put (not a or b or c) and ... (followed by the next one)[2014-9-27. : 10:23 pm] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- if there are fewer 1s you list all the combinations that = 1 with AND (so like if a and not b and not c = 1, you'd put a and not b and not c or ... followed by the next one[2014-9-27. : 10:05 pm] Dem0n -- there are 3 variables, so there are 8 different outputs, but i don't know how to make all of those into a circuit[2014-9-27. : 10:05 pm] Dem0n -- but how do i make a circuit out of like 6 different expressions that aren't related to each other[2014-9-27. : 10:04 pm] Dem0n -- actually i think i'm supposed to convert the truth table to boolean alegbra and then make a circuit out of that[2014-9-27. : 9:58 pm] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- do you mean like a circuit that's always true/false or what?[2014-9-27. : 9:57 pm] Dem0n -- Do you guys know how to represent true/false in a circuit using AND/OR gates (or if that's even possible)?[2014-9-27. : 9:33 pm] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- Dem0nDem0n shouted: guys what's it mean to represent a truth table in boolean algebra? Oh, unless it wants you to, given a truth table, derive the expression![]() [2014-9-27. : 9:33 pm] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: i think sand wraith/excal are our resident modders I can do modding, I just never really actually made a mod. ![]() [2014-9-27. : 9:32 pm] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- Like these: http://faculty.wlc.edu/buelow/mfl/truthtable.gif http://d3i5bpxkxvwmz.cloudfront.net/resized/images/remote/http_s.eeweb.com/quizzes/2011/05/17/truth-table-1305673098_324_319.png http://sub.allaboutcircuits.com/images/14062.png[2014-9-27. : 9:23 pm] jjf28 -- I don't fabricate dat based mods but I learn all I can about the files for chkdraft and crazy eup maps[2014-9-27. : 9:10 pm] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- like I just know all of the files and filetypes mostly, but getting in to like EXE edits and crazy stuff like that I don't really know since I've never played around with it[2014-9-27. : 8:58 pm] SCRuler -- so none of the modders are around anymore? They vanished/became grown-ups?[2014-9-27. : 7:49 pm] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- I'm having one of those things. You know, a headache with pictures.[2014-9-27. : 7:42 pm] Zoan -- So maybe I'm the only thinker, and everyone else doesn't actually think. But maybe that's besides the point, because the question was just "Do you consider yourself an abstract thinker," to which I think the answer is 'I think so, since I think that I've never seen a non-abstract thought of mine before.'[2014-9-27. : 7:38 pm] Zoan -- Oh, I get it: you think no one thinks, but you're wrong, because by thinking that you are proving that you think. I think. However, what you think that you are simply the only one who thinks?[2014-9-27. : 7:36 pm] Moose -- And you may think that's circular logic, but you can't think either by hypothesis, so that's wrong, too![2014-9-27. : 7:35 pm] Moose -- But I couldn't have thought that because I don't think, therefore it's true, proof by contradiction! |
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