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[2019-6-11. : 8:07 pm]  NudeRaider -- If you'd be stretching it you could add that all of starcraft and the assets belong to blizzard etc. but you couldn't even say that you're in no way affiliated with them  [2019-6-11. : 8:05 pm] NudeRaider -- Suicidal InsanitySuicidal Insanity shouted: I think the relative subparagraph is "All your maps are belong to SI" why bother putting anything else in it? [2019-6-11. : 8:03 pm] NudeRaider -- Pr0nogoPr0nogo shouted: so should I preface criticism with acknowledgements of what they did right? short list for blizz in 90% of circumstances tbh ugh. I don't wanna tell you what to do. I'm just talking about how it is perceived by me. This Pr0nogoPr0nogo shouted: Zoan some are fine as graphics, others are just dreadful by themselves, but none of them are readable. marine model is ok as a model, but way too detailed and noisy for what is meant to represent a unit in an RTS. others like the lurker/ultralisk are just terrible to look at regardless of level of detail for example has the occasional positive (?) sprinkled in but the keywords "dreadful" "dreadful" are exaggerations and "none of them" are absolutes. So I can't really take it as valid criticism. Another: Pr0nogoPr0nogo shouted: I actually can't watch any pro games since scr came out, which is a shame Ya you may be annoyed, but unwatchable? Many others are fine, they even let pro gamers take part in the artistic process until they were satisfied. Sorry, that's why I can't take this as anything else than an angry rant. Surely works on youtube, but not when you want to engage in meaningful debate. All of this is of course just imho, and I wouldn't say all that if you weren't actively asking about it.[2019-6-11. : 7:48 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- I think the relative subparagraph is "All your maps are belong to SI"[2019-6-11. : 7:25 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- Have you never read the EULA of scmdraft that is displayed in the text of the splashscreen?[2019-6-11. : 5:06 pm]  Pr0nogo -- anyone who wants to will take it, and you can rest assured no one will want to when the playerbase is as tiny as brood war's[2019-6-11. : 3:21 pm] jjf28 -- mm, there is a native "file attachment" feature when you are creating a thread, it wouldn't be in the "Starcraft I Files" section but it would be stored on this same site[2019-6-11. : 2:41 pm] jjf28 -- you could probably make a showcase thread and attach or link to the map there[2019-6-11. : 2:41 pm] jjf28 -- it might not work until FaRTy gets a chance to update the parser for whatever MPQ protection you're using[2019-6-11. : 2:38 pm] SiKiN -- Can I not upload maps that I've protected with StarcraftMapLockerProject?[2019-6-11. : 7:13 am] Pr0nogo -- and not surprised in the least that they've summarily done just that since returning with their remaster[2019-6-11. : 7:13 am] Pr0nogo -- i'm certainly glad they stumbled into sc/bw and then kept their distance from it so as to not fuck it up[2019-6-11. : 7:12 am] Pr0nogo -- so should I preface criticism with acknowledgements of what they did right? short list for blizz in 90% of circumstances tbh[2019-6-11. : 6:41 am] NudeRaider -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: Pr0nogo "well", in my book, starts with B-. If at that point you're not acknowledging that they did some stuff right but exaggerate the points they didn't, I can't agree with your judgement. I found that to be the case many times. *exaggerate and solely focus[2019-6-11. : 6:40 am] NudeRaider -- Pr0nogoPr0nogo shouted: I want people to do their jobs well, and blizzard has never done that "well", in my book, starts with B-. If at that point you're not acknowledging that they did some stuff right but exaggerate the points they didn't, I can't agree with your judgement. I found that to be the case many times.[2019-6-11. : 6:38 am] NudeRaider -- Pr0nogoPr0nogo shouted: I'd like a source on where I said I wanted perfection, particularly since perfection is paradoxically subjective unless there's a mutual definition It's my observation and obviously another hyperbole. And yes I was originally was going to go into the subjectivitity, but I decided to keep my main point concise.[2019-6-11. : 12:45 am] Pr0nogo -- you can argue that mitigating factors prevent them from working as well as they could/reaching their full potential, but then that just offsets some of the responsibility for their failures to their managers[2019-6-11. : 12:44 am] Pr0nogo -- I want people to do their jobs well, and blizzard has never done that[2019-6-11. : 12:44 am] Pr0nogo -- I'd like a source on where I said I wanted perfection, particularly since perfection is paradoxically subjective unless there's a mutual definition[2019-6-10. : 11:02 pm] NudeRaider -- That being said, I'm not sure "taking issue" is the right term. I've observed and accepted that I cannot (nor do I need to) change this behavior. So yeah, I'm noticing it, and sometimes commenting it, but ultimately I'm pretty indifferent on that matter.[2019-6-10. : 10:59 pm] NudeRaider -- Pr0nogoPr0nogo shouted: NudeRaider ignoring the hyperbole, why does elitism get a bad rap? It's literally saying "I only want to consume the best content." I know that standards make some people insecure or whatever but that's more on you than the "elitist" in the example vrael gave a good general answer to the question. But in this case I had a slightly different angle. What you want is perfection. Since that doesn't exist you will complain about virtually everything, even if it's pretty good. It gets old fast and ultimately devalues your criticism as it is not balanced enough.[2019-6-10. : 10:46 pm] NudeRaider -- Suicidal InsanitySuicidal Insanity shouted: NudeRaider Man I thought you meant prongo xD both, actually[2019-6-10. : 8:46 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: Dem0n you our most famous complainer around here. Man I thought you meant prongo xD Although I will admit it has died down a lot. Still once you earned a reputation it's hard to get out of people's minds.[2019-6-10. : 6:10 pm] Vrael -- Pr0nogoPr0nogo shouted: NudeRaider ignoring the hyperbole, why does elitism get a bad rap? It's literally saying "I only want to consume the best content." I know that standards make some people insecure or whatever but that's more on you than the "elitist" in the example because elitism often has more to do with exclusionary condescension than any actual standards[2019-6-10. : 5:59 pm] Pr0nogo -- certainly nothing added by scr is even bordering on "the best content" from a graphical or gameplay standpoint so I don't see why you take issue with what I said[2019-6-10. : 5:58 pm] Pr0nogo -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: Zoan he dislikes everything. hes just more elitist about it than demon ignoring the hyperbole, why does elitism get a bad rap? It's literally saying "I only want to consume the best content." I know that standards make some people insecure or whatever but that's more on you than the "elitist" in the example[2019-6-10. : 5:56 pm] Pr0nogo -- ZoanZoan shouted: what you don't like the remastered graphics? some are fine as graphics, others are just dreadful by themselves, but none of them are readable. marine model is ok as a model, but way too detailed and noisy for what is meant to represent a unit in an RTS. others like the lurker/ultralisk are just terrible to look at regardless of level of detail[2019-6-10. : 3:46 pm] SiKiN -- Anything to stop from going through Tarpit 3.3 all over again.... rats Hexing my map...[2019-6-10. : 3:06 pm] jjf28 -- I was just able to upload a file fine; perhaps there's an issue parsing that specific map? could you drop it somewhere, perhaps in a PM to me?[2019-6-10. : 2:55 pm] SiKiN -- The action you have performed caused an Error Error(s) returned: Parser error: Error opening archive. (No valid header)[2019-6-10. : 1:10 pm] UEDCommander -- I should probably add bleeding overlay on the bio-reactor as well btw[2019-6-10. : 1:09 pm] UEDCommander -- KrayZeeKrayZee shouted: Are the drones acting like SCVs? Yes, primal building system is similar to terran[2019-6-10. : 8:50 am] NudeRaider -- Dem0nDem0n shouted: NudeRaider I've never said anything bad about SC:R graphics LMAO you our most famous complainer around here. Although I will admit it has died down a lot. Still once you earned a reputation it's hard to get out of people's minds.[2019-6-10. : 7:10 am] KrayZee -- I had to change the quality to HD, the terrain looked like creep to me o_O[2019-6-10. : 6:56 am] KrayZee -- You should get rid of creep and let the Primal Zerg build without it.[2019-6-10. : 6:06 am] UEDCommander -- ZoanZoan shouted: The Carbot graphics look amazing. Now I want access to graphics for map makers lolol Ahem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orDqUOU0oIc[2019-6-10. : 3:37 am]  O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- some of the remaster units look good, but especially zerg ones just seem like visual noise[2019-6-10. : 3:22 am] NudeRaider -- FaRTy1billionFaRTy1billion shouted: whenever people say they use the remastered graphics I'll switch to it but I end up switching it back because it's hard to tell what I am looking at interesting. It's the opposite for me. Often when watching low-res videos I can't even tell at a glance if it's remastered or not. And in game I sometimes marvel at how the units still look and behave and feel exactly the same just at a higher res.[2019-6-10. : 3:18 am] NudeRaider -- ZoanZoan shouted: The Carbot graphics look amazing. Now I want access to graphics for map makers lolol it's fun to watch. Probably irritating to play.[2019-6-10. : 2:21 am] Zoan -- but actually.... no, nevermind. Nothing would ever get done utilizing that, and anything done without it would feel like it wasn't good enough. |
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