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[2016-10-13. : 9:13 pm] zsnakezz -- pier pressure basically making you yourself obsolete if you don't spend that money too[2016-10-13. : 9:12 pm] zsnakezz -- thousands of dollars taken from every family every year for overpriced shit[2016-10-13. : 9:12 pm] zsnakezz -- when the people who rob you every month are cell phone and other tech companies[2016-10-13. : 9:11 pm]  NudeRaider -- zsnakezzzsnakezz shouted: i think it should literally be illegal to have that much control over a market and NOT have good business practices :thumbsup:[2016-10-13. : 9:11 pm] NudeRaider -- the only thing you had control over in the whole process is to delay the installation indefinitely.[2016-10-13. : 9:10 pm] zsnakezz -- i think it should literally be illegal to have that much control over a market and NOT have good business practices[2016-10-13. : 9:10 pm] zsnakezz -- to me i think apple has a horrible model that basically robs americans dry[2016-10-13. : 9:09 pm] NudeRaider -- you mean after they start doing it without asking they give you the option to remove downloading the installation files - if you know how to find out how to.[2016-10-13. : 9:09 pm] zsnakezz -- then i would say that is the sign, that they are going the apple route[2016-10-13. : 9:08 pm] zsnakezz -- but if they stop supporting windows 7, a perfectly find operating system to like bridge the gap[2016-10-13. : 9:08 pm] zsnakezz -- also, they don't force it, they just suggest it constantly until you download it[2016-10-13. : 9:06 pm] NudeRaider -- zsnakezzzsnakezz shouted: will give microsoft credit up to this point, they don't FORCE people into downloading new os's they started that with win 10, to great media outrage.[2016-10-13. : 9:06 pm] zsnakezz -- well there is definitely a lot of "sign in with your microsoft account"[2016-10-13. : 9:05 pm] NudeRaider -- what makes you think MS tries to cater to their customers needs? Imo Win 10 has proven that they stopped trying to do that. They are only interested to milk their monopoly.[2016-10-13. : 9:05 pm] zsnakezz -- will give microsoft credit up to this point, they don't FORCE people into downloading new os's[2016-10-13. : 9:04 pm] zsnakezz -- "oh look at this new update, everything is so much more bubbly" says iphone user[2016-10-13. : 9:02 pm] zsnakezz -- but thanks to apple, they basically force microsoft into competing for a market that doesn't even understand its own needs[2016-10-13. : 9:02 pm] zsnakezz -- one could argue it takes longer then 2 years for that to happen with a new OS[2016-10-13. : 9:01 pm] zsnakezz -- computers are not phones, they are big pieces of hardware that work like pieces of a car[2016-10-13. : 8:58 pm] zsnakezz -- i personally like windows 10, but there is definitely a reason they basically had to shove it down people's throats[2016-10-13. : 8:58 pm] zsnakezz -- they litterally took no time pumping out other operating systems and forcing compatibility issues on themselves[2016-10-13. : 8:49 pm] NudeRaider -- Wing ZeroWing Zero shouted: NudeRaider It just feels well rounded imo. Plus I really like the fact that my wallpapers are synced between PCs I think I know what you mean. After trying Win 8.1 for a while I switched back to Windows 7 and feel right "back at home" again, without being able to really put my finger on it.[2016-10-13. : 8:43 pm]  Wing Zero -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: Wing Zero nice in what way? It just feels well rounded imo. Plus I really like the fact that my wallpapers are synced between PCs[2016-10-13. : 8:37 pm] NudeRaider -- Well I don't intend to talk it down, if it works for you. The flaws are well known, so no need to reiterate. But personally I haven't noticed anything that would compel me to upgrade, so I'm asking for your reasons. Can you name any?[2016-10-13. : 8:37 pm] jjf28 -- Dem0nDem0n shouted: there's literally nothing wrong with W10 lmao well there's the anal probe[2016-10-13. : 8:32 pm] Dem0n -- Like there a few things here and there that bug me but nothing to make me not use it[2016-10-13. : 8:30 pm] NudeRaider -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: Wing Zero nice in what way? this was literally the reason of me asking. Because I can offhand name a couple things where Windows 10 ISN'T nice. So there must be things to compensate for. I'd like to know these.[2016-10-13. : 8:25 pm] NudeRaider -- RoyRoy shouted: The technical reason is a maintenance one: 7 is old and doesn't support many things like new CPU instructions. Microsoft isn't spending money and development time into updating it for obvious reasons, and software developers aren't putting in the investment to maintain compatibility on old platforms either. They could use old standards that are compatible with older operating systems, but then they wouldn't be delivering a product that makes full use of the hardware. Alternatively, they could maintain separate builds (which many companies do), but this significantly increases development costs. that's actually the burden of the hardware manufacturers. They'd have to make sure that their new features are compatible with the expectations of Legacy OSes. This is supported by MS's announcement that they will (fully) support Skylakes on Windows 7 only for a grace period. So why would Microsoft care about that? Not a technical reason, but a strategic one: If they force Windows 10 on newer hardware they give system sellers - who would likely want to stay on Windows 7 or 8 as long as possible - two options: Stay on a legacy OS but can't offer new hardware or upgrade both. Many will choose the latter, even though the would like to stay on the older OS, because the new hardware capapilities are desired. This is especially true for Laptops where every new CPU generation brings significant power savings.[2016-10-13. : 8:15 pm] NudeRaider -- Wing ZeroWing Zero shouted: NudeRaider Win 10 is really nice imo nice in what way?[2016-10-13. : 7:39 pm] Lanthanide -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: "Obama is the founder of ISIS" -- "You mean he created the vaccum...?" -- "No"; "Vote November 28th" I think he heard that there were 28 days left until voting, and got it mixed up with the voting also being on Nov 8th[2016-10-13. : 7:15 pm] Wing Zero -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: why are you even using W10? Win 10 is really nice imo[2016-10-13. : 7:14 pm] Wing Zero -- CorboCorbo shouted: I was going to steal wing zero's box today Good thing I didn't go to sleep til 3am last night[2016-10-13. : 5:52 pm] Roy -- How important these issues are will ultimately be up to the type of software product, of course. Nothing I would write would have a reasonable excuse to not run on 7.[2016-10-13. : 5:50 pm] Roy -- The technical reason is a maintenance one: 7 is old and doesn't support many things like new CPU instructions. Microsoft isn't spending money and development time into updating it for obvious reasons, and software developers aren't putting in the investment to maintain compatibility on old platforms either. They could use old standards that are compatible with older operating systems, but then they wouldn't be delivering a product that makes full use of the hardware. Alternatively, they could maintain separate builds (which many companies do), but this significantly increases development costs.[2016-10-13. : 4:39 pm] NudeRaider -- CorboCorbo shouted: Like, some of my modelling tools are built specifically for w10 now, for some reason. you know the reason.[2016-10-13. : 4:38 pm] Corbo -- Like, some of my modelling tools are built specifically for w10 now, for some reason.[2016-10-13. : 3:48 pm] Corbo -- Also, what's the point of having a task bar customizable if you're just going to add random junk for your user. |
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