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Murder: Why to not do so.
Jan 13 2009, 11:19 pm
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Jan 14 2009, 10:51 pm FatalException Post #41



Quote from SFSKabam
Quote from name:Shocko
If somebody is stupid and does something to risk your life, other laws can imprison them and keep them away. The reason you should not murder someone is not in fear of imprisonment of yourself, but in amusement of impronment of the idiots... is that optimistic enough?

No, because the idiots are living comfortably inside a prison, getting meals 3 times a day, watching TV, and just 'chillin'.
... You think prison is comfortable?

How old are you? :dontgetit:



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Jan 15 2009, 1:52 am Vi3t-X Post #42



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IN PRISON you spend the majority of your time in an 8x10 cell.
AT WORK you spend most of your time in a 6x8 cubicle.

IN PRISON you get three meals a day.
AT WORK you only get a break for 1 meal and you have to pay for it.

IN PRISON you get time off for good behaviour.
AT WORK you get rewarded for good behaviour with more work.

IN PRISON a guard locks and unlocks all the doors for you.
AT WORK you must carry around a security card and unlock and open all the doors yourself.

IN PRISON you can watch TV and play games.
AT WORK you get fired for watching TV and playing games.

IN PRISON you get your own toilet.
AT WORK you have to share.

IN PRISON they allow your family and friends to visit.
AT WORK you cannot even speak to your family and friends.

IN PRISON all expenses are paid by taxpayers with no work required.
AT WORK you get to pay all the expenses to go to work and then they deduct taxes from your salary to pay for prisoners.

IN PRISON you spend most of your life looking through bars from the inside wanting to get out.
AT WORK you spend most of your time wanting to get out and inside bars.

IN PRISON there are wardens who are often sadistic.
AT WORK they are called managers.


And in response.
You're trying to kill someone and are looking for feedback reasons.
Do as you would do on to yourself.
Kill someone and kill yourself.
Murder Suicide?



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Jan 15 2009, 1:54 am Vrael Post #43



I don't think anyone mentioned the Social Contract theory so far? If you did, sorry.

One thing to ask yourself: How much do you enjoy the fruits of our society? Television, paved roads, grocery stores, buttered toast, staredit.net, toilet paper, contact lenses, showers, chairs, clothing, ect.

Imagine there are two people on earth, and you are one of them. You and Bob, let's say. You have a house, and Bob has a house. There are no rules, rights or wrongs, and no one to hold you accountable. So you have a couple options. You can slave away by yourself all day, work and chop wood for your fire and hunt and skin your kill and eat then sleep to do it all over again the next day. So you see Bob one day in the woods, and both of you are pretty tired of it. You're both lonely, tired, bored, and beat up from all the work you've been doing. So you agree to work together. Bob goes out hunting and you chop firewood. You skin the meal and cook it while bob drags the logs inside. Between the two of you, you have an extra house, plenty of food and warmth, and not to mention some company. I think you can see where this is going.

Now, I think a lot of people might say this doesn't apply to modern day society. There are 6 billion people in the world, and it won't make a difference if I kill the bum down the street. Well, that's true. But that would make you an exception to the no murder rule, and everyone else who isn't murdering is following the rule. But look what would happen if no one followed the no murder rule. If everyone killed who they pleased, well that's worse than war. At least in war you don't kill your comrades.

Hopefully this wasn't just a reiteration of what someone else said, and helped you.


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IN PRISON you spend the majority of your time in an 8x10 cell.
AT WORK you spend most of your time in a 6x8 cubicle.

IN PRISON you get three meals a day.
AT WORK you only get a break for 1 meal and you have to pay for it.

IN PRISON you get time off for good behaviour.
AT WORK you get rewarded for good behaviour with more work.

IN PRISON a guard locks and unlocks all the doors for you.
AT WORK you must carry around a security card and unlock and open all the doors yourself.

IN PRISON you can watch TV and play games.
AT WORK you get fired for watching TV and playing games.

IN PRISON you get your own toilet.
AT WORK you have to share.

IN PRISON they allow your family and friends to visit.
AT WORK you cannot even speak to your family and friends.

IN PRISON all expenses are paid by taxpayers with no work required.
AT WORK you get to pay all the expenses to go to work and then they deduct taxes from your salary to pay for prisoners.

IN PRISON you spend most of your life looking through bars from the inside wanting to get out.
AT WORK you spend most of your time wanting to get out and inside bars.

IN PRISON there are wardens who are often sadistic.
AT WORK they are called managers.

At work you make money. At work you leave at 5pm to go home and do whatever you like. At work you don't get raped by a large bald man named Frank who has a fetish for men with makeup on. At work you can decide to quit. At work you have free will. At work you can storm out if you get pissed at people. Et cetera.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Jan 15 2009, 2:06 am by Vrael.



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Jan 15 2009, 3:53 am Falkoner Post #44



Because murder causes anarchy and a society cannot function properly with it.



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Jan 15 2009, 4:06 am ToA Post #45

Que Sera, Sera.

10 commandments say not to.

there's one reason.




Jan 15 2009, 4:31 am Rantent Post #46



Reasons to kill:

It is perhaps the most efficient way to win a quarrel. (Even better than logically beating them.)

You can look like a badass or superhero. (Both of which have been known to kill for rather random reasons.)

Decrease human population, yet leave money supply unchanged. (The population therefore becomes more wealthy.)

Being closest to the deceased at time of death, you will have access to some of said supply. (You may become wealthy.)

The deceased will no longer spew out crap. (Figuratively, literally they will become the crap of many small organisms.)

It prevents them from killing you. (A preemptive strike as such.)

It builds character.

We kill animals, humans are animals. (I really hope you get the logic here.)

It's more humane than a lot of things we do to people. (Torture, ect.)

Saying never and always, never work. (There's bound to be at least one reason that would be reasonable to kill someone.)

We actively kill people in other countries, why not our own? (Or are those people not people?)



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Jan 15 2009, 5:09 am Kellimus Post #47



Quote from Vi3t-X
Quote
IN PRISON you spend the majority of your time in an 8x10 cell.
AT WORK you spend most of your time in a 6x8 cubicle.

IN PRISON you get three meals a day.
AT WORK you only get a break for 1 meal and you have to pay for it.

IN PRISON you get time off for good behaviour.
AT WORK you get rewarded for good behaviour with more work.

IN PRISON a guard locks and unlocks all the doors for you.
AT WORK you must carry around a security card and unlock and open all the doors yourself.

IN PRISON you can watch TV and play games.
AT WORK you get fired for watching TV and playing games.

IN PRISON you get your own toilet.
AT WORK you have to share.

IN PRISON they allow your family and friends to visit.
AT WORK you cannot even speak to your family and friends.

IN PRISON all expenses are paid by taxpayers with no work required.
AT WORK you get to pay all the expenses to go to work and then they deduct taxes from your salary to pay for prisoners.

IN PRISON you spend most of your life looking through bars from the inside wanting to get out.
AT WORK you spend most of your time wanting to get out and inside bars.

IN PRISON there are wardens who are often sadistic.
AT WORK they are called managers.

Prison fucking sucks, my brother was there for two years and it sucks there. Whoever thinks prison is better than real life, has a fucking problem.



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Jan 15 2009, 11:21 am JaFF Post #48



Quote from name:isolatedpurity
Without religion, I would see no reason why not to murder.
PWNT.

The answer to the original question: The forces of good in you might get quite pissed.



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Jan 15 2009, 10:38 pm Symmetry Post #49

Dungeon Master

Quote from ToA
10 commandments say not to.

there's one reason.

Actually only one of them does.



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Jan 15 2009, 11:55 pm ToA Post #50

Que Sera, Sera.

Quote from name:Killer_Kow
Quote from ToA
10 commandments say not to.

there's one reason.

Actually only one of them does.

you know what i mean.




Jan 16 2009, 12:22 am InsolubleFluff Post #51



ToA, what do you mean? I don't get it? :P!

Those things you said about prison vs work... work actually sounded better... And that's hard considering you obviously tried to make work sound THAT BAD... By the way... not everyone works in a cubicle... and by the way... not everyone doesn't get to watch T.V, not everyone cannot talk to family friends, not everyone has to fit into all those things you listed... so really, it was bullshit. I personally think i'm happy with those who deserve to be in jail getting my taxpayers. Because it means I don't have to deal with them out here in the city, again...



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Jan 16 2009, 2:54 am Centreri Post #52

Relatively ancient and inactive

Quote from Vrael
At work you don't get raped by a large bald man named Frank who has a fetish for men with makeup on.
That seemed overly specific and from my point of view oddly personal. An alternate humorous response to this line is 'What kind of offices have you been to lately?'. Pick your favorite :P.

There's basically one reason: To prevent retribution. Whether it be retribution from god, from the law, from relatives of the victim or even from your conscience.



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Jan 16 2009, 5:13 pm BiOAtK Post #53



If you (and everyone else) starts murdering, there's no one to fuck. Fucking is the most primal instinct. Kill < Fuck



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Jan 16 2009, 7:46 pm Symmetry Post #54

Dungeon Master

Quote from Anonymous
If you (and everyone else) starts murdering, there's no one to fuck. Fucking is the most primal instinct. Kill < Fuck

Killing other men = more female:male ratio. Kill = Higher chance of 'fuck'.



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Jan 16 2009, 9:20 pm Kellimus Post #55



Quote from name:Killer_Kow
Quote from Anonymous
If you (and everyone else) starts murdering, there's no one to fuck. Fucking is the most primal instinct. Kill < Fuck

Killing other men = more female:male ratio. Kill = Higher chance of 'fuck'.

Not if you're some nerd who thinks he's the most awesome person in the world cause he can make something of himself on an internet forum.. Girls don't dig that shit.


Fuckin' Nerds. Lol. Gotta love the self-shit-talking :D



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Jan 16 2009, 11:46 pm BiOAtK Post #56



Quote from Kellimus
Fuckin' Nerds. Lol. Gotta love the self-shit-talking :D
Hah, and you say this on starcraft map-making forum?

Anyways, good point. Assuming you kill equal amounts of females and males, then.



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Jan 16 2009, 11:54 pm MillenniumArmy Post #57



After killing all the men, even if you were the last man alive on Earth with a bunch of women, all the women would rather go lesbian than to get penetrated by you people's pieces of shame (yea that's right you heard me killer kow)



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Jan 17 2009, 12:26 am Kellimus Post #58



Quote from Anonymous
Quote from Kellimus
Fuckin' Nerds. Lol. Gotta love the self-shit-talking :D
Hah, and you say this on starcraft map-making forum?

Anyways, good point. Assuming you kill equal amounts of females and males, then.

Yeah, i'm poking fun at all the nerds on here who think they're bad-ass. I'm also poking fun at myself :)



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Jan 17 2009, 2:03 am Symmetry Post #59

Dungeon Master

Quote from MillenniumArmy
After killing all the men, even if you were the last man alive on Earth with a bunch of women, all the women would rather go lesbian than to get penetrated by you people's pieces of shame (yea that's right you heard me killer kow)

Then Anonymous's logic fails from square one, meaning my argument isn't even necessary :-_-:



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