I need a mod tool which will view weapon ranges. DatEdit fails horribly at this (scv doesn't have the same range as zealot, but DatEdit says it does). Alternatively, you can tell me how to use DatEdit to view/change the correct ranges, rather than have the number rounded down to the nearest half a square.

You sure they don't have the same range?

SCV and Zealot have the same range. Its just the SCV is bigger then the zealot, so it seems like it has a bigger range.

If I put a zergling and a zealot next to eachother, they can always attack eachother. If I put the scv next to either the zergling or the zealot, only the zealot/zergling can attack the scv unless it's very close.

Likewise, broodling has a very very small range, which is reported to be 0 in datedit.

The SCV doesn't attack them because the worker AI normally doesn't attack units.

ALL melee units have the same range. No matter what.

so broodling's AI is the same as an scv? I never knew that.

Where did I say that? Broodlings aren't workers, they are able to automatically attack other units.

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On the lines of range, do marines get a range boost when in bunkers?

You said scv doesn't attack because the worker AI doesn't work. Broodling won't attack either. Seriously, try it out. I'm talking about two units, owned by the same player, attacking eachother. The scv can attack the broodling, but the broodling has to move the attack the scv. Likewise, the zealot can attack the scv, but the scv has to move. In any case, scv ai is such that if you're that close, it will attack, unless you immediately attack it, where it will run away if the attacker isn't allied.

yes. I was always under the assumption that it's just +1, but I read somewhere that it's 9 for ghosts in bunkers. I just counted it with unupgraded rines, and it seems to be 168 pixels, or 10.5 zerglings, from the left side of the bunker. That's 5.5 squares. I'm not entirely sure where range is measured from either (if it's from the end of the unit's collision square or the center of the unit).

Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on Jul 28 2008, 1:06 am by rockz.

the attack range of the zealot and scv is the same
scv will move to zealot because it has to slowdown
the scv's move control scv is flingy.dat
zealot's move control is iscript.bin,so it hasnt to slowdown before attacking

The broodling doesn't slap the SCV in the face for drilling a hole in it's arse is because IT'S ALLIED TO THE OTHER UNIT. The reason the units have to move to attack has to do with iscript sequences, stuff in .dat files, and some stuff with the Starcraft engine. All this adds up to say that all melee units have the same range. If units tend to do something it doesn't normally seem to do, that's because of ether AI problems, or some shit Blizzard coded.