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Hacking...and confusion.
Apr 15 2008, 1:05 am
By: Hug A Zergling
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Apr 15 2008, 1:05 am Hug A Zergling Post #1



I thought I had a good grip of what hacking was, when someone uses programs to access illegal things is software. This idea covered everything, from hacking games to programs. But then, i went on this site called Hackaday.com (Or something) and none of its hacks involved my idea. So what exactly is hacking? I did a little research, and that brought it black and white hats, obviously having nothing to do with this type of stuff. So my question is, what exactly is hacking?



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Apr 15 2008, 1:12 am Centreri Post #2

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Well, what I know is that black hats are malicious hackers and white hats are nice hackers. Other then that, I just group all that into one category.



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Apr 15 2008, 1:14 am Forsaken Archer Post #3



Hacking is pretty broad. Google definition:
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Unauthorized use, or attempts to circumvent or bypass the security mechanisms of an information system or network.
Which can be simply logging into someone else's computer with a valid password.

Hacking, like internet 'real' definition, is getting around security without the use of programs that do the hard work for you (scripts -> script kiddies).

Hacking can also be like... getting around the normal, hmm ,logical method of things. Like if I applied code to the forums that says if (topic = this one) { // give no minerals }. I would call that a hack because it's like, screwing with the normal progression of the topic code.



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Apr 15 2008, 1:17 am Hug A Zergling Post #4



Ah, I see. So it can be almost anything that defys the way something normally works?



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Apr 15 2008, 7:49 am Rantent Post #5



Hacking is being more intelligent than the computer.
It's saddens me that so few are able to do so.



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Apr 15 2008, 10:13 am MindArchon Post #6



Quote from name:isolatedpurity
Hacking can also be like... getting around the normal, hmm ,logical method of things. Like if I applied code to the forums that says if (topic = this one) { // give no minerals }. I would call that a hack because it's like, screwing with the normal progression of the topic code.

I think that doesn't have much to do with the "computer" definition of hacking.

In that sense, all you're doing is hacking together something quickly that serves you a quick purpose. Totally different definition in my opinion.



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Apr 15 2008, 11:21 am Vi3t-X Post #7



Quote from Rantent
Hacking is being more intelligent than the computer. It's saddens me that so few are able to do so.
I Reluctantly Agree.



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Apr 15 2008, 3:27 pm Clokr_ Post #8



Hacking is just going beyond what and application or a system allows you to. And yes, I totally agree with Rantent.



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Apr 15 2008, 3:29 pm Brontobyte Post #9



I herd a long time ago that you could type in some sort of script that the computer would read and use. For example:

Lets say I want to turn off my computer. ( Everything is incorrect because I don't know actually what it is )

{turn off=admin computer} or something like that.

They also stated that everything you type into a field the computer reads and if you put some type of malicious code into your computer ( no idea why ) that it would read it as if it were a command from let say notepad/ms word.

I have no idea if this is true or not.



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Apr 15 2008, 4:19 pm Clokr_ Post #10



Quote from Brontobyte
I herd a long time ago that you could type in some sort of script that the computer would read and use. For example:

Lets say I want to turn off my computer. ( Everything is incorrect because I don't know actually what it is )

{turn off=admin computer} or something like that.

They also stated that everything you type into a field the computer reads and if you put some type of malicious code into your computer ( no idea why ) that it would read it as if it were a command from let say notepad/ms word.

I have no idea if this is true or not.

Try the following:
Open notepad and type:
Code
shutdown -s

Then save the file as whatever.bat and double click it :P



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Apr 15 2008, 4:24 pm Brontobyte Post #11



Quote from Clokr_
Try the following:
Open notepad and type:
Code
shutdown -s

Then save the file as whatever.bat and double click it :P

Or, or you could just tell me what it does. ( shuts off my computer? )



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Apr 15 2008, 5:11 pm cheeze Post #12



Quote from Rantent
Hacking is being more intelligent than the computer.
It's saddens me that so few are able to do so.
So true.



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Apr 15 2008, 7:57 pm Praetor Post #13

layin' in the cut

You're all wrong (mostly). What most people think hacking is is actually called "cracking," whereas true "hacking" is stuff like hackaday (non-malicious).

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_difference_between_hacking_and_cracking



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Apr 15 2008, 8:13 pm The_z0r Post #14



Quote from Praetor
You're all wrong (mostly). What most people think hacking is is actually called "cracking," whereas true "hacking" is stuff like hackaday (non-malicious).

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_difference_between_hacking_and_cracking
YES!!! Someone knows!



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Apr 15 2008, 8:53 pm Phobos Post #15

Are you sure about that?

Quote from The_z0r
Quote from Praetor
You're all wrong (mostly). What most people think hacking is is actually called "cracking," whereas true "hacking" is stuff like hackaday (non-malicious).

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_difference_between_hacking_and_cracking
YES!!! Someone knows!

Right what I was going to say... Hackers make programs and things. Crackers break them.




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Apr 15 2008, 11:52 pm Hug A Zergling Post #16



I like cloakr_'s definition the best. Thats what i thought, i didnt necisarrily have to do with computer softerware, just electronics. Am I rite?



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Apr 16 2008, 12:37 am Syphon Post #17



Hacking is writing quick dirty code that does the job you want it to do.



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Apr 16 2008, 2:16 am DT_Battlekruser Post #18



Quote from Clokr_
Quote from Brontobyte
I herd a long time ago that you could type in some sort of script that the computer would read and use. For example:

Lets say I want to turn off my computer. ( Everything is incorrect because I don't know actually what it is )

{turn off=admin computer} or something like that.

They also stated that everything you type into a field the computer reads and if you put some type of malicious code into your computer ( no idea why ) that it would read it as if it were a command from let say notepad/ms word.

I have no idea if this is true or not.

Try the following:
Open notepad and type:
Code
shutdown -s

Then save the file as whatever.bat and double click it :P

It saddens me that despite naively thinking that they have locked us out of DOS by disabling cmd.exe but not command.com, my school still managed to deny shutdown.exe network permissions :(



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Apr 16 2008, 3:30 am Syphon Post #19



Quote from DT_Battlekruser
Quote from Clokr_
Quote from Brontobyte
I herd a long time ago that you could type in some sort of script that the computer would read and use. For example:

Lets say I want to turn off my computer. ( Everything is incorrect because I don't know actually what it is )

{turn off=admin computer} or something like that.

They also stated that everything you type into a field the computer reads and if you put some type of malicious code into your computer ( no idea why ) that it would read it as if it were a command from let say notepad/ms word.

I have no idea if this is true or not.

Try the following:
Open notepad and type:
Code
shutdown -s

Then save the file as whatever.bat and double click it :P

It saddens me that despite naively thinking that they have locked us out of DOS by disabling cmd.exe but not command.com, my school still managed to deny shutdown.exe network permissions :(

My school did that too. :P



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Apr 16 2008, 3:32 am DT_Battlekruser Post #20



They also disabled the Run prompt but not the creation of shortcuts :lol:



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